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Brigid

(17,621 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:43 PM Jul 2012

Great Rachel Maddow rant tonight about infrastructure.

She's talking about the power outages in different parts of the country. She also pointed out that there have been serious outages in the DC area and muses aloud that this ought to get something done about the issue.

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Great Rachel Maddow rant tonight about infrastructure. (Original Post) Brigid Jul 2012 OP
Our grid is ancient. We need a jobs act to fix infrastructure upi402 Jul 2012 #1
There are two real issues. Igel Jul 2012 #6
FERC can promulgate regulation, can't it? upi402 Jul 2012 #8
And if a bridge happens to collapse the Repukes will say Booster Jul 2012 #7
Too bad Sycophants and Casuistries can't produce Energy orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #2
And the Transportation bill has been SIGNED, elleng Jul 2012 #3
Old grid, not enough Ilsa Jul 2012 #4
She did observe that the bill passed in the middle of malaise Jul 2012 #5

upi402

(16,854 posts)
1. Our grid is ancient. We need a jobs act to fix infrastructure
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:46 PM
Jul 2012

But Repukes block ANY mention of it.

And then cry, "WHERE ARE THE JOBS OBAMA?"

Igel

(35,320 posts)
6. There are two real issues.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jul 2012

The first is local. For that you have a public utilities commision that sets fees and such. They keep fees low. Low fees = low maintenance/no upgrade to infrastructure. This is a local problem, all the more so since all the funding is local and all the issues with easements and such rights are local and vary neighborhood by neighborhood. It's a community issue, and even at the state level runs into problems.

The second is national or state. When we lived up North there was a push to upgrade transmission towers. In the event of a shock to the power grid, huge swaths of the state could go powerless. Happened once, and it was largely unnecessary. But for that you need all kinds of jurisdictions to sign off on placement of the high voltage towers, of the lines, of access roads. Lots of NIMBYism, lots of people in the country wanting to preserve their nice views. An act of Congress would have given the authorities trying to route the transmission lines a lot of leverage, but there was no will to make it happen. Because it would have offended important supporters of the senators at the time.

When I was in California they had the same debate (second issue) for the same kinds of reasons. It's an evergreen problem.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
8. FERC can promulgate regulation, can't it?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:53 PM
Jul 2012

That is - if we had a functional congress and a real opposition party to corporate energy giants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

Booster

(10,021 posts)
7. And if a bridge happens to collapse the Repukes will say
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jul 2012

"Well, it's Obama's fault. He didn't do anything about the bridges". God, I hate the ones in Congress.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
2. Too bad Sycophants and Casuistries can't produce Energy
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:51 PM
Jul 2012

D.C enjoys a bubble made from the rest of the countries sweat & misery ,the Mesopotamia of opportunists,their esoteric conversations keep us in the dark ,Hence I'll light a candle for them

elleng

(130,974 posts)
3. And the Transportation bill has been SIGNED,
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:53 PM
Jul 2012

so maybe we're getting somewhere.

(But we'll need Appropriations for its implementation probably, eh?)

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. Old grid, not enough
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:08 PM
Jul 2012

training, not enough hired help to get these problems resolved quickly. Every entity has cut back; power companies, local governments.

YOYO. You're on your own.

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