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babylonsister

(171,082 posts)
Sat May 27, 2017, 02:57 PM May 2017

Mike Pence Is Toast: Anonymous Letter To WaPo Shows The Role Of Eric Prince In Trump-Russia

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/26/1666425/-Mike-Pence-Is-Toast-Anonymous-Letter-To-WaPo-Shows-The-Role-Of-Eric-Prince-In-Trump-Russia


Mike Pence Is Toast: Anonymous Letter To WaPo Shows The Role Of Eric Prince In Trump-Russia
By ursulafaw
Saturday May 27, 2017 · 12:00 AM EST


Mike Pence lost all plausible deniability about his alleged ignorance of all things Russian today, if the Washington Post is correct that Pence benefactor and mentor Erik Prince is the "representative of Trump" named in an anonymous letter received by the Post in December; and moreover that Prince was a member of the Trump transition team all along.

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Erik Prince is an interesting character. Erik Prince portrays himself as a mix between Indiana Jones, Rambo, Captain America, and Pope Benedict, according to The Intercept article, "Mike Pence Will Be The Most Powerful Christian Supremacist In U.S. History." Mike Pence and Erik Prince go back a long ways. Erik Prince is Mike Pence's benefactor. Mike Pence is Neo to Erik Prince's Morpheus. Bankrolling Mike Pence so that he can become POTUS and implement dominionist rule in Washington is Erik Prince and Mike Pence's dream. The Intercept said this:


...his close relationship to Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater. In December 2007, three months after Blackwater operatives gunned down 17 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad’s Nisour Square; Pence and his Republican Study Committee, which served “the purpose of advancing a conservative social and economic agenda in the House of Representatives,” organized a gathering to welcome Prince to Washington. But their relationship is not just forged in wars. Prince and his mother, Elsa, have been among the top funders of scores of anti-gay-marriage ballot initiatives across the country and have played a key role in financing efforts to criminalize abortion.

Prince has long given money to Pence’s political campaigns, and toward the end of the presidential election, he contributed $100,000 to the pro-Trump/Pence Super PAC Make America Number 1. Prince’s mother kicked in another $50,000. [...] Erik Prince...portrays himself as a mix between Indiana Jones, Rambo, Captain America, and Pope Benedict...


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Mike Pence has been playing games pretending that he is a Washington outsider, which defies the imagination let alone common sense. He has lost all plausible deniability after today. It will be interesting to see him squirm out of this one. Pence and Prince were side by side on the transition team and the Washington Post has it down in black and white and considerable detail. After today's bombshell about Jared Kushner requesting a communications back channel a lot more dots are getting connected in the Trump Russia investigation. Yeah, Mike, as the Hoosier good ole boys say, “Last time there was a leak like this, Noah done got hisself a boat.”
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Mike Pence Is Toast: Anonymous Letter To WaPo Shows The Role Of Eric Prince In Trump-Russia (Original Post) babylonsister May 2017 OP
DeVos's brother underpants May 2017 #1
DeVos Med. co. was the other server (Trump tower server too) connected to the Russian Alfa Bank. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #30
Yes. The story that has been ignored. underpants May 2017 #31
That would explain why the GOP focused so much on Clinton's server Crash2Parties May 2017 #52
server post LunaSea May 2017 #67
And in case anybody's not aware, Lindsay May 2017 #2
and blackwater family samnsara May 2017 #19
$6,000,000,000 was lost in Iraq. A lot, maybe an awful lot, surely went through Blackwater & pockets Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #20
Pallets of cash unloaded from cargo planes. Hauled away in wheel barrels. Yes I remember. Snotcicles May 2017 #56
Support our Oops! - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #63
Burn in hell Pence! LOL Lib May 2017 #3
Precisely why Trump picked him Plucketeer May 2017 #44
Well, that and they needed someone the conservative Christians would back. Crash2Parties May 2017 #53
But, but........... SergeStorms May 2017 #61
You are so right. LOL Lib May 2017 #65
Kick. dalton99a May 2017 #4
Was aware of Prince's connections to Trump, but not to Pence. This is extremely important. suffragette May 2017 #5
They wo t let Pence go down. Trump on the other hand Pisces May 2017 #6
...but Pence lied and was there Alice11111 May 2017 #7
He will be shielded Pisces May 2017 #34
So far, they are pretentiously shielded him Alice11111 May 2017 #70
WOW! Pense & prince goin DOWN!! furtheradu May 2017 #8
trump has no cover KT2000 May 2017 #9
Notice how things are amping up in the last two weeks. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #10
Plus... It was the Prince/DeVos Spectrum server communicating with Alfa Bank & Trump server.. MedusaX May 2017 #11
OmdearG. Thank YOU! I need a cigarette! furtheradu May 2017 #12
I keep saying, the IC is putting together a "prosecutable package" that will deliver the whole cabal NightWatcher May 2017 #13
They have a script and are keeping on schedule grantcart May 2017 #15
Why do you think Pence will survive this? Hekate May 2017 #23
He wasn't in the loop grantcart May 2017 #26
I've been afraid all along that Pence would maintain plausible deniability... Hekate May 2017 #28
Two words...Paul and Manafort.... Docreed2003 May 2017 #36
"Why, BOTH kinds of music: country AND western!" Yeah, Docreed, "Paul and Manafort"! Leghorn21 May 2017 #39
Manafort chose him from a very short list of doable names grantcart May 2017 #50
I detect the fine Italian hand of James Comey. WinkyDink May 2017 #27
HA! Yesssss! furtheradu May 2017 #29
I disagree... Pence is going down GreenEyedLefty May 2017 #66
actually the opposite is true grantcart May 2017 #68
The sooner this whole party goes down the better! Initech May 2017 #14
Afternoon KICK! furtheradu May 2017 #16
If Trump gets taken down, Pence needs to go as well! n/t AntiFascist May 2017 #17
Kushner and Prince didn't know IC knew exactly what they were up to. L. Coyote May 2017 #18
Recommended. H2O Man May 2017 #21
Why am I not surprised that little shitstain, Erik Prince, is involved? GoCubsGo May 2017 #22
When I clicked on donco May 2017 #24
Did you click on the link in the OP? babylonsister May 2017 #37
How can all these creepy, ugly, disgusting, pustules of human beings stand to be near each other? WinkyDink May 2017 #25
K&R Solly Mack May 2017 #32
Prince sent four of his employees to their deaths in Fallujah keithbvadu2 May 2017 #33
K & R! Mountain Mule May 2017 #35
Who do Y'all think wrote anonymous letter? furtheradu May 2017 #38
I hope we have dirt on Ryan, too. LS_Editor May 2017 #40
Strong relationship between Mercer (lunatic billionaire king of data analysis)Pence&Prince/DeVos too stuffmatters May 2017 #41
erik and betsy pamdb May 2017 #42
never heard of Erik Prince trueblue2007 May 2017 #43
Blackwater? Privately owned army that got no bid contracts during Dumbya's reign of terror? Thor_MN May 2017 #47
I found Jeremy Scahill's 'Blackwater' to be a great read. NT pablo_marmol May 2017 #51
Scahill..awwwsome investigative Journalist. furtheradu May 2017 #54
No doubt!!! NT pablo_marmol May 2017 #55
Let's hope he's toast gopiscrap May 2017 #45
"Make America Number 1" Thor_MN May 2017 #46
That Blackwater crap and the independant contractor scam is one of the biggest crimes against us brewens May 2017 #48
Plus with contractors... not fooled Aug 2017 #71
Under the guise of 'Christianity' they want to privatize everything .. even wars. YOHABLO May 2017 #49
This is what I've been dearly hoping to hear. pablo_marmol May 2017 #57
Watch for the names Mike Rogers and Pete Hoekstra to start showing up. Just a hunch. nt Snotcicles May 2017 #58
K&R. dchill May 2017 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M May 2017 #60
Not surprised JustAnotherGen May 2017 #62
Would be nice, but don't start wishing him bon voayge just yet DFW May 2017 #64
KICK for Sunday eyes furtheradu May 2017 #69

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
52. That would explain why the GOP focused so much on Clinton's server
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:22 AM
May 2017

Projection, always projection of whatever they are most guilty...

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
2. And in case anybody's not aware,
Sat May 27, 2017, 03:02 PM
May 2017

Erik Prince is the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.

More branches on the Trump Crime Family tree....

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
56. Pallets of cash unloaded from cargo planes. Hauled away in wheel barrels. Yes I remember.
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:31 AM
May 2017

And who was the Viceroy over seeing those minor incidents? Oh yeah, Paul Bremer.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
44. Precisely why Trump picked him
Sat May 27, 2017, 10:55 PM
May 2017

as his running mate. Things are just so much easier when the whole crew works in unison!

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
53. Well, that and they needed someone the conservative Christians would back.
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:24 AM
May 2017

Trump already had the white supremacist crowd.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
61. But, but...........
Sun May 28, 2017, 04:40 AM
May 2017

HE'S A CHRISTIAN! He's a Republican christian, and that's a christian that is VERY unchirst-like. These types of "christians" use the term as an excuse for all the evil they do, then beg for forgiveness. I'd like to see them beg from their prison cell, please.

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
65. You are so right.
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:48 AM
May 2017

They use religion to carry out their evil agenda. Prison is almost to good for them.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
5. Was aware of Prince's connections to Trump, but not to Pence. This is extremely important.
Sat May 27, 2017, 03:06 PM
May 2017

Thanks for posting!

Massive K&R.

KT2000

(20,586 posts)
9. trump has no cover
Sat May 27, 2017, 03:17 PM
May 2017

if the Prince's are scheming for a takeover for Pence. trump may have been played big time.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Notice how things are amping up in the last two weeks.
Sat May 27, 2017, 03:28 PM
May 2017

Are some or all of the Retired CIA,NSA and other Spook people feeding the system the real truth? When the story about Comey being duped by a fake Russian E-Mail and going after Clinton,that seemed to be the Straw that broke this wide open.

Thankfully we have a few brave Men and Women who place Country above Party Politics.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
11. Plus... It was the Prince/DeVos Spectrum server communicating with Alfa Bank & Trump server..
Sat May 27, 2017, 03:29 PM
May 2017

So Pence cannot reasonably possess plausible deniability for the data related activities transpiring amongst those servers

Little pensie poo you have been a bad bad boy..
Mother will not be pleased...

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
13. I keep saying, the IC is putting together a "prosecutable package" that will deliver the whole cabal
Sat May 27, 2017, 03:41 PM
May 2017

The end of this past week gave us the case against Jared. Soon you will see a couple days of damning evidence that sinks Pence (it may already be starting). You'll also see the systematic takedown of Sessions, Ryan, maybe McChinless, it (and we) will climax with a bulletproof case against Chump himself.

This release of evidence is highly organized but I'm not quite sure who has scheduled the takedown.

Can't wait to see what this week brings.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. They have a script and are keeping on schedule
Sat May 27, 2017, 04:20 PM
May 2017


You can just log in at 7:45 and see the bombshells run out.


The establishment has its angels and they are wearing brass knuckles are going to take Trump out.

Pence is likely to survive.

Hekate

(90,787 posts)
23. Why do you think Pence will survive this?
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:13 PM
May 2017

Do they just not want to decapitate the entire government at once? Do they figure that Pence/Prince will be toothless at that juncture?

I swear, I cannot keep up and haven't the energy to start drawing flow charts....

Hekate

(90,787 posts)
28. I've been afraid all along that Pence would maintain plausible deniability...
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:50 PM
May 2017

It's just that he looks more like a dirty liar with each passing day.

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)
36. Two words...Paul and Manafort....
Sat May 27, 2017, 07:05 PM
May 2017

Manafort personally chose Pence and convinced Trump to bring him on. Pence is as dirty as the rest of them. In fact, in some ways, I think the BS "my hands are clean" stuff is the intended smokescreen. Trump was the mark and Pence was the chosen golden boy. I'll never buy that Pence is clean. The whole thing is too convenient.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
39. "Why, BOTH kinds of music: country AND western!" Yeah, Docreed, "Paul and Manafort"!
Sat May 27, 2017, 07:24 PM
May 2017

I am dull witted, old and exhausted, but I do remember reading about Paulie hooking Pence up - something about a delayed plane, Paulie busts a move, Kasich (sp) out, Pence in?

Doesn't matter, those pesky details (not to my wee brain that is)!!! - the crucial takeaway here is that MANAFORT brought in Pence, and if MANAFORT lays hands on you, you're an automatic resident of Traitortown. Bam, done, over and out.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
50. Manafort chose him from a very short list of doable names
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:55 AM
May 2017

for 2 reasons

1) he could reassure the evangelical wing

2) they could tell him to sit in the corner.

LBJ , HHH, Nixon, Truman, Agnew served as VP and none of them hand any access to any inside information and only served as errand boys.

Pence wasn't picked because he was on the inside but because he was too stupid to look through the windows.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
66. I disagree... Pence is going down
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:53 AM
May 2017

Notwithstanding Pence's own high crimes and misdemeanors, Trump will take Pence with him.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
68. actually the opposite is true
Sun May 28, 2017, 12:01 PM
May 2017

Trump gains nothing by taking him down, he needs Pence to issue the pardons.

H2O Man

(73,602 posts)
21. Recommended.
Sat May 27, 2017, 04:57 PM
May 2017

This is as bad -- maybe worse -- than the Reagan/Bush attempt to have a shadow government by way of the NSC, bypassing the State Department and military, in the Iran-contra scandal.

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
22. Why am I not surprised that little shitstain, Erik Prince, is involved?
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:01 PM
May 2017

That whole goddamn family is probably complicit.

donco

(1,548 posts)
24. When I clicked on
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:33 PM
May 2017

the first link on the KOS site this is what I came up with.

We're unable to locate the page you requested.
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keithbvadu2

(36,895 posts)
33. Prince sent four of his employees to their deaths in Fallujah
Sat May 27, 2017, 06:09 PM
May 2017

Prince sent four of his employees to their deaths in Fallujah

under-equipped as if it was a picnic.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
47. Blackwater? Privately owned army that got no bid contracts during Dumbya's reign of terror?
Sat May 27, 2017, 11:21 PM
May 2017

Betsy Dumbass, I mean Devos's brother?

Meet Erik Price.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
46. "Make America Number 1"
Sat May 27, 2017, 11:18 PM
May 2017

What they are doing is making America Number 2. Everything Trumppence touches turns to shit.

brewens

(13,620 posts)
48. That Blackwater crap and the independant contractor scam is one of the biggest crimes against us
Sat May 27, 2017, 11:24 PM
May 2017

ever. I guess we thank Dick Cheney for that. It was supposed to save us money, using them for things we can't afford to pay the military to do. I say bullshit. The military used all their won stuff for, transportation, security, food service and construction in WWII didn't they? That turned out okay didn't it?

Prince and his guys pay ex military people top dollar and then some to make a profit. They charge us for everything we'd have to pay for if it were our own troops anyway. It's no deal at all. Plus they lure away our guys and we have to get more and pay to train them. We get hit with that cost too.

A couple years ago I worked with a kid that was military but only Naval reserve. He told us a lot of guys had the idea of getting their training and "going Blackwater". I pissed him off when I said those guys were crooks. BTW. This kid, Christian and home schooled, an alt-right dream. Escorted by police from a high school blood drive for hitting on a high school kid!

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
71. Plus with contractors...
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 01:28 AM
Aug 2017

...NO DRAFT

They can foment and fight innumerable endless wars and as long as they aren't drafting middle-class kids (or what passes for the middle class these days) and the mediaduh plays along by not properly covering the wars--and showing the coffins coming back--they can get away with it.

Disgusting.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
49. Under the guise of 'Christianity' they want to privatize everything .. even wars.
Sun May 28, 2017, 12:31 AM
May 2017

It's nothing less than Christian Fascism. They are the ones who make life miserable for everyone else in the country, and I might add, the world. It should be illegal to have established a private army for hire in this country.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
57. This is what I've been dearly hoping to hear.
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:35 AM
May 2017

I think it's highly unlikely at this point that 45 will complete his term. But Dog help us if we can't keep Pence out of the WH.

The whole lot need to be shown the door.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

JustAnotherGen

(31,874 posts)
62. Not surprised
Sun May 28, 2017, 07:30 AM
May 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=journals&uid=207530&year=2017

If you search on DU - Stacy Deluke Erik Prince's wife -

There's a treasure trove of information. Right here at DU. Others who follow the Dominionist Republicans picked up on it a few months ago. I saw her FB page from Trump Tower on election night before she made the post private.

Pence is in like Flynn.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
64. Would be nice, but don't start wishing him bon voayge just yet
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:13 AM
May 2017

Whereas Republicans convene House committees every time Breitbart accuses a Democrat of littering or jaywalking, a Republican could take a billion dollars in dirty money, kill a relative on live TV, and pour enough toxic waste into the drinking water of West Virginia, Kentucky or Michigan to kill every man, woman and child in the state, and STILL be guaranteed millions in campaign contributions, positive press in the right-wing dominated media, and immunity from prosecution granted by Republican legislators and law "enforcement."

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