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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow did we elect such a weird man?
His weird handshakes, where he tries to yank the other guy's arm off and pulls them off balance...
His hair. Oh, that hair. The work of an extremely vain man who doesn't have a clue about how fake it looks...
His obesity. The man has gotten truly yuge. Big fat ass. And yet he insists on playing golf without a coat, with photographers around. Doesn't he realize how pathetic his fat ass looks?
His rudeness. Shoving other world leaders out of the way, and then jutting out his chin just like Mussolini. Very weird.
His creepy leering remarks about his own daughter.
His creepy remarks about being a sexual predator on other women, including married women.
The constant exaggerating, lying, conniving.
Now, I can understand a right wing backlash. The pendulum swinging to someone more conservative for the next four or eight years.
But this bag of weirdness? It makes NO sense!
Skittles
(153,199 posts)A BUNCH OF FUCKING IDIOTS DID
Rollo
(2,559 posts)are you saying we are not part of the solution? WE are the REISTANCE.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Orrex
(63,225 posts)She also noted--correctly--that a bunch of fucking idiots voted for him.
Fucking idiots. Every single one of them. Is that a broad-brush attack? Yeah? Well, fuck them. Fuck every single one of those stupid fucking idiots. Fuck them and the racist rapist god-king for whom they prostrate themselves in their idiot supplication. Fuck them.
They do not want our outreach or our understanding, and they do not deserve them. We don't need to try to understand them, because we already do understand them. We need to quarantine them for the sake of the health of our nation.
Fuck them.
mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)I'm right there with ya!
Heard a "feel good" Memorial Day speech yesterday.. he said we're divided, but at the end of the day, we're all still "friends and share a common good." Well, fuck no we're not, and fuck no we don't.
He needed to say, people, cut it out. No more goon squad attacks. No more cheering violence. No more ignoring the racism and sexism and xenophobia that is dividing us. Call it out, every single day, every single time!
Orrex
(63,225 posts)By "we're all still friends," he means "Progressives should sit down and shut up," and his drooling idiot acolytes want nothing less.
Fuck them.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)How is that going to fix anything?
Orrex
(63,225 posts)And they sure as fuck don't respond to rational argument, either, so fuck them.
Either they are idiots are they are indistinguishable from idiots.
Having proven themselves to be idiots, it is not up to me to redeem them nor to find the infinitesimal spark of non-idiocy buried deep within them.
Fuck them. When they recognize and atone for their idiocy, I will welcome them back into the land of non-idiots.
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)I'm another who says 'they'.
I can never unsee their racist bigoted sexist inbred vote.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)WTF
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Orrex
(63,225 posts)You claim that calling Trump's voters idiots is a dead end, and you ask how it's going to fix anything.
Please tell us your solution. Tell us how you will bring these idiot racist fuckheads into the light of reason so that they can mend their idiot racist fuckhead ways and recognize that the worship an idiotic orange idol.
Calling them idiot racist fuckheads is not an attempt to fix anything; it's recognizing that they are a deliberately and stubbornly lost cause. I can waste breath and effort trying to convince them that they voted for an idiot fuckhead who would personally shit on each and every one of them if it made him a dime, or I can recognize that they are impervious to reason and move on.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Orrex
(63,225 posts)I am not impressed by smug but futile affectations of moral superiority. Give us your high and mighty plan for appealing to these idiot racist fuckheads, or kindly have the decency to admit that you don't know what you're talking about.
At least let me know if there's any point in reading your posts.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)...a substantial portion of the voting electorate.
It didn't work in 2016, and it won't work in 2018 or 2020.
I am more impressed with positive proposals and mature approaches.
Let me know if you have any.
Warpy
(111,359 posts)without coming up with a viable alternative to them.
This isn't Twitter or Facebook.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Not the name calling and insulting that some of you folks seem to thrive upon. It's a losing strategy. 2016 should have taught you that.
Orrex
(63,225 posts)Rollo
(2,559 posts)Skittles
(153,199 posts)Rollo
(2,559 posts)Aristus
(66,467 posts)Rollo
(2,559 posts)Congratulations.
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Aristus
(66,467 posts)What have I been doing with my life?
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Skittles
(153,199 posts)the obvious ones - there's just no challenge
Aristus
(66,467 posts)Rollo
(2,559 posts)For the sake of argument, let's assume you are an American.
America elects (or re-elects) a president every four years.
Translation: WE AMERICANS ELECT A PRESIDENT EVERY FOUR YEARS.
It doesn't fucking matter if you didn't vote for the winner, or if you joined the "Resistance", or if you sat out the election contemplating your navel. As an American, you're part of the larger whole that did elect Trump. You don't like it? Well, change the system so that small rural states don't give individual voters four times the say in a Presidential election as someone from California. Or, get out and organize in the swing states to vote for the best candidate. Do SOMETHING. Just don't whine "Oh I didn't vote for Trump so I'm not part of this nation any more".
Just don't get your panties all in a twist if someone mistakes you for an American.
YOU DO NOT KNOW ME *AT ALL* SO STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS
ENOUGH ALREADY
IGNORE IS MY FRIEND!
Rollo
(2,559 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)imanamerican63
(13,817 posts)Last edited Mon May 29, 2017, 04:28 AM - Edit history (1)
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)Speaks in short sentences. Repeats himself. Uses superlatives often.
It makes me uneasy to think he represented me in Europe.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)DK504
(3,847 posts)Gerrymandering put him in the WH.
patricia92243
(12,603 posts)dalton99a
(81,599 posts)Well, the idiots and assholes thought he was the greatest thing that's ever walked on earth
Rollo
(2,559 posts)I'm using "we" not in the royal sense, not even in the direct third person sense, but in the collective sense. Don't take it personally, in other words.
It's not enough to say a bunch of idiots elected Trump. I refuse to believe there are that many idiots in this country.
I rather believe that Trump conned enough people to get an electoral majority. Some of those who voted him in no doubt now are regretting that decision. But his supporters seem to remain firm. So I wonder, are they deaf and blind? How could they not see how creepy this guy is?
leftstreet
(36,116 posts)If you do the math you'll actually find that a very small percentage of eligible voters ended up strapping us with Trump
Rollo
(2,559 posts)...how not to let it happen again...
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FM123
(10,054 posts)... when he held Theresa May's hand at the White House but after seeing how Melania keeps swatting his hand away like a mosquito, I guess that he takes what he can get whether it's holding or shaking his very tiny tiny tiny hands
UTUSN
(70,744 posts)Response to Rollo (Original post)
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JI7
(89,276 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Just seeing his goddamned jowly, grimacing mug makes me want to hurl. On the Repulsiveness Scale, he's an 11.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,368 posts)That was his basic appeal to those who ended up voting for him: "I'll teach those Muslims/Mexicans/liberals/black people/people in need/women a lesson, because you think they cause your problems". He was the politician most likely to be mean to their perceived enemies. His voters were hiring a thug to go and beat up the groups they despise. The weirdness reinforces his image as thug as much as making him look unpresidential.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)Orrex
(63,225 posts)The mantra during his clusterfuck campaign was "he's not afraid to say what he thinks."
What those stupid racist fuckheads actually meant was "he's not afraid to say what I think but am afraid to say."
Fuck them.
Dulcinea
(6,666 posts)He told a lot of desperate, angry people what they wanted to hear, not the reality of the situation. Look at his base: rural white people left behind by globalization with nowhere to turn.
Also, authoritarian personalities love him. They WANT to be told what to do by someone they perceive as a strong leader.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)So we did, sorta.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Just making a point - yours is well taken.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Share the WTF horror and disbelief.
The more pressing question is how do we get him and the even more dangerous anti-humanity, treasonous Republicans out of power!
It IS mind blowing. It defies decency. It is somedays too much to wrap one's brain around.
But if we are to save our country for decades, we have to fight relentlessly to abolish the "weirdness" and the accompanying horror now.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)If I was to sum up how I feel right now, I'd probably say that it is quite like Marty McFly and Doc Brown winding up in the bizarro alternate 1985 created by Biff stealing the sports almanac and giving it to his younger self to make him rich and powerful and change his future. I feel like something similar HAD to have happened here. There just seems to be no logical reason why so many people- and technically more people total turned out for Hillary- turned out and voted for Trump despite all of the above (personal appearance issues aside) and what's maddening is that too many of the people whom voted for Trump- or voted against Hillary from the left- are people WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER! The choice should not have been starker or easier. However, ultimately, I think that what happened was Trump was "normalized" by the MSM as a more-or-less typical Republican candidate (whom also, inexplicably was able to appeal to some working-class/union folks whom believed that he would bring them back their jobs) while Hillary was relentlessly smeared by people on all sides as an elitist and "professional politician". After all this is over with Trump, I sincerely hope that we, as a country, stop sneering about "professional politicians". I don't know about anybody else, but I want a "professional politician" who knows what he/she is doing in the Oval Office.
Aristus
(66,467 posts)Add the collective audiences for Honey Boo-Boo and Duck Dynasty and that's his electoral base.
People who think getting married at Wal-Mart is the height of sophistication qualify as pretty weird...
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)'They' did - with the help of the Russians and EC.
One thing I noticed in your op - it doesn't touch his so-called policies and legislative agenda. When you drive to that - it's obvious that there are good Americans and bad Americans. The bad Americans who voted for him are against our Federal Republic, against the Constitution, and against inclusion of ALL Americans in society.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)People were persuaded that Hillary Clinton was worse than Lucifer himself. Anybody was better than her. And they chose Donald Trump because he was a businessman and not like the rest of those "politicians" in Washington.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)He's worse
LisaM
(27,839 posts)Early this morning I was bouncing around CNN, MSNBC, and Fox just to see what was on the docket for each. CNN and MSNBC were both covering the Russian/Kushner angle. Fox had a nutbag "presidential historian" claiming that backdoor access to foreign enemies goes back to John Quincy Adams (including the "Hillary sold all our uranium to the Russians" lie), followed up by some bizarro piece on Hillary trying to run in 2020. I usually can't watch Fox for more than a minute, but this was reaching even for them. Haven't they done enough harm to Hillary? Can't they let up even now? Add to that, their attention to actual issues is almost non-existent. They flat out don't cover the news.
oasis
(49,410 posts)The ignorant assholes will now pay a big price.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)Yuuuuge price?
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)AND THEIR HEADS WILL EXPLODE WHILE THEY'RE LOADING THEIR GUNS.
There are already trickles of news stories about this, and they're only going to get bigger. There's no way that in certain counties EVERY SINGLE WHITE VOTER turned off FOX and actually went into the daylight and voted.
The voting machines in the Midwest will be the Grassy Knoll of 2016.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)they fucking stole the election
Doreen
(11,686 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)What Comey and his cronies did was pure evil and cannot be allowed to happen in a true democracy.
But it was allowed. And it was treated as if it was valid. That made it impossible for Hillary to win.
It is to her credit that she ran a good enough race to force Comey to come charging out of the closet in the final 11 days and completely rig the election, since she had it won so decisively. By forcing Comey to be so blatant in his actions she laid the groundwork for our country to recognize the horror of what was done--and make it harder for it to happen again in the future.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)They had like ten people running and some how they picked they picked the worse one of the bunch.
dchill
(38,546 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)The drama alone should mean we win the 2020 election.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)We need to highlight his many horrible attributes without alienating large swaths of the electorate.
If they are indeed idiots, let's make them useful idiots.