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Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
1. Many of us suspected that she was a fraud from the start.
Mon May 29, 2017, 09:36 AM
May 2017

And I'm being generous by calling her a fraud, as you can easily conclude that she's taking advantage of our desparation to get rid of Trump to sabotage the entire movement.

I didn't need to hear it from Nance, but it's nice to know that someone I respect agrees.

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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
3. No doubt Malcolm tells it like it is
Mon May 29, 2017, 09:41 AM
May 2017

But Mensch can add something if interpreted with care.

We'll know over time if she's been trolling us all.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
7. If we have to interpret with care...
Mon May 29, 2017, 10:12 AM
May 2017

what Mensch writes, she's an unreliable and questionable source of information.

Plenty of other sources who are far more credible.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. What does Nance have against poor Louise?
Mon May 29, 2017, 10:10 AM
May 2017

Everybody's picking on her. They should stop that. It's not nice.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
8. Trust is a strong word.
Mon May 29, 2017, 10:19 AM
May 2017

When it comes to news, I don't blindly trust any one person. Hell, I don't blindly trust anybody. Maybe my dog but I know her agenda. I highly respect Nance and love his insight on how the IC works. I have no respect for Mensch beyond that level of respect that I give strangers until they give me reason to withdraw that respect or even raise it.

Trust has a much higher bar. Even if Nance were to present "news" I would wait for verification from other sources to back him up, just like I do with Mensch, Maddow, Hayes, the local news, anybody, especially in today's environment. Trust is built over a long time of never, ever, ever being wrong, misleading or in some way less than honest. In short, when it comes to news, I keep a large round of salt on the end table and some news reports require more salt while others less and others require much, much, much less.

Thank you Mr.Nance for your advice but I'm a big boy and am already in the habit of questioning everything to at least some degree when considering the source.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
9. Nance and Mensch: competitors for the same audience.
Mon May 29, 2017, 10:42 AM
May 2017

This criticism from Nance seems more like a pissing contest than a call-out for accuracy and truth. Sometimes, Nance sounds like an idiot, other times, he's on the mark. Mensch has her own follies.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,010 posts)
10. Your title plus 3 sentences state the situation very clearly.
Mon May 29, 2017, 12:03 PM
May 2017

Mensch has been invaluable in providing multiple "heads-up" and even a scoop or two. However, as with all media reports, whether social media or mainstream media, I read for details and assign likelihoods based on track records and internal consistency along with verifiable and collaborative reports.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,010 posts)
11. Another round of the guilt-by-association fallacy. Anyway, she has disavowed Yiannopoulos
Mon May 29, 2017, 12:09 PM
May 2017

Mensch and him aren't on talking terms anymore.

Yiannopoulos popped up now because he is the true provocateur and his career is lagging badly. So he is now pushing what is less than even a half-truth since it does not hold up under scrutiny.

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