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PIC: In Ukraine, protestors mace police (Original Post) yurbud Jul 2012 OP
If we did that in the USA, they would shoot and kill the protestors... rfranklin Jul 2012 #1
Curious, would you agree that it would be justifiable? tkmorris Jul 2012 #5
Kiling the protestors or spraying the cops? pennylane100 Jul 2012 #10
Killing the protestors if they maced the police. tkmorris Jul 2012 #16
It was an ironic comment not an endorsement... rfranklin Jul 2012 #17
I gotcha tkmorris Jul 2012 #22
Which is why I cheer when police budgets are cut. Zalatix Jul 2012 #14
And you think the privately owned police will be malaise Jul 2012 #18
Most rent a cops I've seen have more interest in their phone than in security. Sirveri Jul 2012 #23
Only way to be sure Strelnikov_ Jul 2012 #19
Good for the goose, good for the gander imho...... Little Star Jul 2012 #2
Well, in most countries the people expect the police to work FOR them. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #3
Sadly, there would be a lot of "tsk-tskers," even here, if citizens tried to work on an even playing villager Jul 2012 #6
I approve! n/t backscatter712 Jul 2012 #4
I was half expecting medieval weapons Brother Buzz Jul 2012 #7
why are those cops wearing camo? BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #8
im hearing Yakov Smirnov in your thread title Enrique Jul 2012 #9
my first thought too... AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #15
Good to see the tables are turned, RebelOne Jul 2012 #11
Whose to say these didn't? Igel Jul 2012 #12
YES!!!! Hahahahah, way to go! Zalatix Jul 2012 #13
I might not be that smart but.. maejay91 Jul 2012 #20
Here's an article from the Houston Chronicle......Ukraine: Clashes in capital over use of Russian MagickMuffin Jul 2012 #21
Thank you maejay91 Jul 2012 #24
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
1. If we did that in the USA, they would shoot and kill the protestors...
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jul 2012

and it would be considered justifiable.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
16. Killing the protestors if they maced the police.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:13 PM
Jul 2012

That was what the poster I was responding believed would be considered justified.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
17. It was an ironic comment not an endorsement...
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jul 2012

I find the police in this country lacking in restraint. The OWS crackdowns showed that and there was veryh little resistance.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
22. I gotcha
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:54 AM
Jul 2012

Very often true meaning is lost or difficult to understand when reading posts on the internet. It wasn't clear to me whether you were endorsing such a view or lamenting it. Glad we're all cleared up.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
14. Which is why I cheer when police budgets are cut.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:37 PM
Jul 2012

If you can't put those violent psycho-cops down, then de-fund them out of existence.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
23. Most rent a cops I've seen have more interest in their phone than in security.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 07:01 AM
Jul 2012

They'd most likely turn tail and run. Or join in, they only get paid minimum wage.

Unless we're talking blackwater mercs who are used to serving in war zones, then they'd probably start shooting at any provocation. My guess is that wouldn't work out to well for whoever hires them though.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Well, in most countries the people expect the police to work FOR them.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:14 PM
Jul 2012

After all it is the people who pay their salaries. And in most other countries, people are not raised to fear the police so when they forget who they work for, the people often remind them.

But here as someone else said, things have gone so far in the wrong direction, that if that were to happen, there would be a lot of dead protesters and a lot of, even Democrats, claiming they deserved it 'for not being sufficiently submissive'. Old European countries do not like words like 'submissive'. They've had enough experience with what happens when the police become too powerful.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
6. Sadly, there would be a lot of "tsk-tskers," even here, if citizens tried to work on an even playing
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jul 2012

...field with the armed public goon squads deployed by the 1%ers...

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
11. Good to see the tables are turned,
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:23 PM
Jul 2012

now if the protesters would only do that in the USA. But of course not, they would all end up in jail.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
12. Whose to say these didn't?
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:30 PM
Jul 2012

The guy in charge of the Internal Affairs Ministry--where the militia have their organizational home--was appointed by Yanukovich and is apparently his friend.

maejay91

(2 posts)
20. I might not be that smart but..
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:18 AM
Jul 2012

I sincerely want to know what exactly they were protesting and why they needed to mace the police, I'm not trying to argue that it wasn't appropriate that they do so I am just trying to understand the whole story. The problem is that when I Google it or try to look it up nothing comes up but a bunch of anarchist sites and bloggers reposting the picture. I tried reading the threads and comments on some of the blogs but none of them had the back story, just opinions based of the picture. So does anyone know the whole story here? To be totally honest I may just be failing at research haha

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
21. Here's an article from the Houston Chronicle......Ukraine: Clashes in capital over use of Russian
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:41 AM
Jul 2012
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Opposition activists clashed with riot police in the center of the Ukrainian capital Wednesday and the parliament speaker resigned after the legislature passed a bill that would upgrade the status of the Russian language.

The bill, which must be signed by the president to become law, would leave Ukrainian as the only state language but allow the use of Russian in Russian-speaking regions in courts, education and other government institutions.

Members of Ukraine's pro-Western opposition say such as law would effectively smother the Ukrainian language by removing any incentive for millions of Russian-speaking Ukrainians to learn and speak it. They also say it would bring Ukraine back into the Russian orbit and torpedo its efforts to forge closer ties with the European Union.

Lawmakers loyal to President Viktor Yanukovych, who draws his support from the Russian-speaking east and south, rushed the bill through Parliament on Tuesday night, without giving the opposition much chance to oppose it in a debate.

Snip: More at the link

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Ukraine-Clashes-in-capital-over-use-of-Russian-3683644.php#photo-3155026






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