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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 11:44 AM Jun 2017

Trump has the authority to block testimony of James Comey.

Last edited Fri Jun 2, 2017, 02:09 PM - Edit history (2)

There is a lot of talk that he may attempt to block Comey's testimony with a claim of "executive privilege". Some say he may have had an argument if he had not fired Comey? But once he made that decision, Comey was no longer part of the Executive Branch? He became a civilian. But that is debatable.

It would be a sign of desperation if Trump were to try such a tactic. Executive privilege does not have a very successful history. Nixon tried it also, as I recall?

(edited for clarification)

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Trump has the authority to block testimony of James Comey. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2017 OP
The fact that Comey is now a private citizen is irrelevant and has nothing to do The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #1
That too. kentuck Jun 2017 #5
That exactly. Comey's current status as a private citizen The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #8
Obviously I'm no lawyer. kentuck Jun 2017 #10
If he did it would be digging the hole deeper. Cattledog Jun 2017 #2
I dare him malaise Jun 2017 #3
The commentary I hear agrees with you, mostly... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #4
I was just reading that. awesomerwb1 Jun 2017 #6
Too bad don the con LiberalBrooke Jun 2017 #7
That will be his strategy. kentuck Jun 2017 #9
And, as usual, that will just make things worse for him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #11
He and his imbecile minions leftynyc Jun 2017 #17
My guess is he'll try intimidation from his knuckle-dragging lawyers and bodyguards. n/t woodsprite Jun 2017 #12
Also the fact that Trump was all over twitter and the news DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #13
That's the key point. H2O Man Jun 2017 #14
Thanks for the clarification. kentuck Jun 2017 #15
He absolutely DOES have the authority leftynyc Jun 2017 #16
Reuters article on this CousinIT Jun 2017 #18

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,862 posts)
1. The fact that Comey is now a private citizen is irrelevant and has nothing to do
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jun 2017

with executive privilege because Comey was the FBI director when he had the meetings with Trump and created the memos. The reason executive privilege won't work is that Trump himself has publicly discussed and tweeted about the meetings and has thereby waived the privilege even if it had existed in the first place.

Furthermore, in United States v. Nixon the Supreme Court held that a claim of executive privilege can't override the needs of the judicial process, if that claim is based merely on the ground of a generalized interest in confidentiality and not on the ground that military or diplomatic secrets are implicated.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,862 posts)
8. That exactly. Comey's current status as a private citizen
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jun 2017

doesn't have anything to do with the executive privilege issue.

Cattledog

(5,919 posts)
2. If he did it would be digging the hole deeper.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jun 2017

It would also turn some borderline supporters against him.

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
4. The commentary I hear agrees with you, mostly...
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jun 2017

for one thing, Comey is no longer a member of the administration/government, so Trump's basic authority is kind of sketchy there. Also, like you mentioned, the history isn't good for supporting it, especially in instances that may have implications of wrongdoing. Courts are rather loathe to grant privilege for people that might be in the DOJ crosshairs.

There are no NDA's in government.

I'd be quite surprised if it was granted. The only restrictions I can see on the Comey testimony would be national security issues, which he is probably well coached and versed in. It doesn't sound to me like there is anything there, other than a weak claim of "weakening the President" that the RW echo chamber will probably throw out.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
6. I was just reading that.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017

It's a little more complicated. Here's what I found with a quick google about whether cheeto could invoke executive privilege to stop Comey from testifying. Edit: wow, very informative posts ^ up there!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-factbox-idUSKBN18T1OB

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
7. Too bad don the con
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017

Since he can't stop the testimony, I wonder what he will tweet out in advance to try to neuter what will be said.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
9. That will be his strategy.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jun 2017

To try to accomplish with a PR attack what he cannot accomplish otherwise.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,862 posts)
11. And, as usual, that will just make things worse for him.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 12:05 PM
Jun 2017

The more he tweets or comments about Comey's testimony the more he undercuts any claim of executive privilege.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. He and his imbecile minions
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jun 2017

are going to spend the next week trying to trash Comey's reputation. They've already started.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
13. Also the fact that Trump was all over twitter and the news
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 12:13 PM
Jun 2017

talking about the meeting. That negated any claim of executive privilege Trump might possibly have.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. He absolutely DOES have the authority
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jun 2017

to TRY and claim EP. But his big mouth and teeny typing fingers will get it laughed out of court.

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