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Cattledog

(5,916 posts)
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 08:03 AM Jun 2017

Kushner $1.3 billion in debt.

Congressional investigators are seeking to determine whether President Trump’s son-in-law was vulnerable to Russian influence during and after the campaign because of financial stress facing his family firm’s signature real estate holding – a Manhattan skyscraper purchased at the height of the real estate boom.

And they are focused, officials told ABC News, on a December meeting Jared Kushner held with executives from a Russian bank.

“It's very peculiar that of all the people he could be talking to in a transition period where you've got lots of balls in the air, that you end up talking to a Russian banker who is under sanction and who is related to Putin and has a KGB background,” said Rep. Jackie Speier, a California Democrat who sits on the House Intelligence Committee. “I think the question has to be asked, was this about you trying to get financing for your troubled real estate that you have in New York City?”

The timing of Kushner’s December meeting with executives from VneshEconomBank, or VEB, at the suggestion of the Russian ambassador, has also raised concerns from government watchdog groups across the political spectrum.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/lawmakers-looming-debt-leave-jared-kushner-vulnerable-russian/story?id=47780422

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Kushner $1.3 billion in debt. (Original Post) Cattledog Jun 2017 OP
republicans selling out America for money from the evil empire* of russia Achilleaze Jun 2017 #1
Both inept and corrupt. Ivanka's ideal man. nocalflea Jun 2017 #2
they're birds of a feather onetexan Jun 2017 #9
Just like daddy. nocalflea Jun 2017 #11
Kush is a desperado. nt NCjack Jun 2017 #3
like i tell people, trumps wealth is a veneer. he's into the russians for a bunch of dough. KG Jun 2017 #4
I've been saying this for a while... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #18
Oh and this guy Iplayoneontv Jun 2017 #35
He's the one who will flip on Trump. LS_Editor Jun 2017 #5
I would love that! CrispyQ Jun 2017 #34
Two questions: canetoad Jun 2017 #6
3) Why do we think Ivanka's hands are clean? Lars39 Jun 2017 #8
Naaah canetoad Jun 2017 #10
I think so too. Lars39 Jun 2017 #12
I don't think any of them are clean... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #19
Ivanka's hands are as clean as Lady Macbeth's. DemoTex Jun 2017 #23
Yep Lars39 Jun 2017 #27
If Kushner has this much debt Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #7
Yuppers BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #13
That's over half a billion dollars. Ilsa Jun 2017 #21
Yup BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #22
Off the books debt Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #25
He appears to have had that too BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #28
Not to mention the $600 million he owes to the Bank of China. George II Jun 2017 #31
And BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #32
Some poor guy has been trying to track that in Google drive Iplayoneontv Jun 2017 #36
He apparently has quite a bit of debt BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #37
The Trump crime family has many moving parts. dubyadiprecession Jun 2017 #14
and one script writer, the cabo. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #20
So he's calling the top republican to get him off the hook. onecent Jun 2017 #15
I want a man, just like the man Soxfan58 Jun 2017 #16
More likely convo was about sanctions... Barack_America Jun 2017 #17
Debt is a security risk. Pull his clearance. alfredo Jun 2017 #24
Make close to a BILLION DOLLARS...through it right make on the table on one bet underpants Jun 2017 #26
This just reeks. Can you imagine he uproar if Chelsea's husband had shady dealings with catbyte Jun 2017 #29
" ...you end up talking to a Russian banker who is under sanction ..." DK504 Jun 2017 #30
Not surprised. He took a major bath on that white elephant hotel/condo Warpy Jun 2017 #33
"...was this about you trying to get financing....?" D.U.H. Putin and Co. likely financed Trump's WinkyDink Jun 2017 #38
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2017 #39

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. republicans selling out America for money from the evil empire* of russia
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 08:13 AM
Jun 2017

while russia perpetrates Acts of War** on the USA.

Treason. Treason most foul.

* per ronald reagan
** per dick cheney

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
18. I've been saying this for a while...
Reply to KG (Reply #4)
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:21 AM
Jun 2017

follow the money, or in this case the debts. Trump is dirty and he's in deep.

Iplayoneontv

(77 posts)
35. Oh and this guy
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 07:27 PM
Jun 2017

At minimum, Trump owes $750 million to trackable sources. We have no idea what else he owes. His net worth is maybe two billion. A nice estimate is 50 percent liability.

Krushner is paying for that building with money he's stealing from working class people helped by Chinese and Russian investment. The loan was already restructured. It's going to fail. Kushner is worth a few hundred million. That company is going to crash.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
6. Two questions:
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 08:34 AM
Jun 2017

1) Is tRump (Bannon) throwing Kushner under the bus to save his own skin?
2) Push come to shove, which one would Ivanka side with?

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
27. Yep
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jun 2017

Shakespeare (or whoever is the current writer for him) would be having a time writing all this.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
21. That's over half a billion dollars.
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:23 AM
Jun 2017

I bet there is more to less savory characters and unknown unstitutions.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
25. Off the books debt
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:42 AM
Jun 2017

I'm not a tax expert. Should off the books debt be considered as income, much like a large gift of money? If so, could there be a tax evasion case? Or would the feds be more apt to consider this as money laundering?

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
28. He appears to have had that too
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 10:12 AM
Jun 2017

But I think what has happened with him is that what he was doing was so obfuscated that regulators (notably in NYC) probably couldn't keep up. They would probably need a whole unit devoted to delving into his empire of financial insanity in order to pluck out the most egregious stuff.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-financial-troubles-taxes-1990s

I suppose now with having Mueller do an investigation (who brought on a fraud specialist), maybe some of that will eventually be done.

Iplayoneontv

(77 posts)
36. Some poor guy has been trying to track that in Google drive
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jun 2017

I gave up trying to read it. Trump seems to have a thousand LLCs. It's insane. I mean I could see a hundred or so but he's clearly passing debts around.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
15. So he's calling the top republican to get him off the hook.
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jun 2017

Lock the guy up...I've tried liking him and Ivanka, but...this is a horrendous amount of money.

Guess he's not getting enough problem-solving-tips for the big orange guy.

AND i DID NOT VOTE FOR DUMP!!!

underpants

(182,843 posts)
26. Make close to a BILLION DOLLARS...through it right make on the table on one bet
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jun 2017

One building. Not several to spread out the risk. One building. And now fees are starting to kick in on top of the 6.35% rate he got.

catbyte

(34,409 posts)
29. This just reeks. Can you imagine he uproar if Chelsea's husband had shady dealings with
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 10:13 AM
Jun 2017

a Russian bank under U.S. sanctions? By their silence, the entire Republican party is complicit in treason against the United States of America.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
30. " ...you end up talking to a Russian banker who is under sanction ..."
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jun 2017

That alone shows he needs to go, his security clearance stripped and the building seized.

Warpy

(111,286 posts)
33. Not surprised. He took a major bath on that white elephant hotel/condo
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jun 2017

complex in Toronto, letting it go to a debt holder for about half what it cost to build. He's leveraged up to his menswear mannequin eyebrows on everything he "owns" and debt holders are starting to wonder if he's ever going to cough up. He's skipping maintenance to try to raise fast cash and gaining a reputation as a slumlord in the process, even though none of his properties were slums when he bought them.

He, like his daddy in law, is in grave danger of dying broke.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
38. "...was this about you trying to get financing....?" D.U.H. Putin and Co. likely financed Trump's
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jun 2017

ENTIRE CAMPAIGN, JUST SO THAT Trump could get his immense debt forgiven (hey, the break-up of NATO is a pretty good quo) and Kushner could pay for his white elephant of 666 5th Ave.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS DETERMINED BY RYAN, PENCE, MCCONNELL, MULVANEY, AND BANNON: the AHCA; the draconian budget; the Paris Accord decision; etc.

Trump doesn't want to govern; he's far too ignorant, indifferent, lazy, and unpatriotic to deal with being a real President.

He wants MOST to NOT DIE over the $$$$$$$$$ debt he owes Putin!



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