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If Comey hits a home run Chump will be at 30% approval by next Sunday. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 OP
Be prepared. It could be a big disappointment. mucifer Jun 2017 #1
Totally agree. DURHAM D Jun 2017 #2
Totally agree with Totally agree :'I am unable to comment due to the on going investigation' California_Republic Jun 2017 #70
Sure. PLUS, 30%? Let's get real. Trumpsters are IN for him. Hortensis Jun 2017 #81
and only after years of unjust wars, trillions of dollars spent lapfog_1 Jun 2017 #82
YES, but all blamed on US. OUR fault, not theirs. Hortensis Jun 2017 #84
He was the first one to confirm Chump was under investigation DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #4
He could have talked about both investigations before the election mucifer Jun 2017 #8
It was a grievous lapse in judgement. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #12
It was totally unethical mucifer Jun 2017 #16
"Mildly nauseous." yallerdawg Jun 2017 #40
Comey is going to defend Chump after Chump said he fired him because he's a clown? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #50
We'll see, won't we? yallerdawg Jun 2017 #51
Benjamin Wittes, Comey friend and explainer, prepared us for what to expect. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #53
I am not reassured at all. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #56
It doesn't seem likely Comey is going to say Trump fired me because I'm a "nut case." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #60
He had a reason for refusing to testify behind closed doors. He wants to ensure that GOP shills tblue37 Jun 2017 #57
Same reason Hillary wanted all her testimony to be public. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #65
Behind closed doors he won't be able to say... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #68
Did you see Comey acted based on a Russian spy plant letter? sharedvalues Jun 2017 #77
Yes, I did. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #78
I think Comey's going to be proven to be net positive for America. we will see sharedvalues Jun 2017 #97
If past performance is ANY indicator... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #98
tRump enid602 Jun 2017 #52
There was nothing about the letter that was confidential. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #63
Chaffetz put a differnet spin on it. The media took off with it. enid602 Jun 2017 #96
I'm worried about that too, however, I also believe he cares about his reputation onecaliberal Jun 2017 #6
Occam's Razor or "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #9
sometimes a banana is just a banana, Anna........SNL 70's...... samnsara Jun 2017 #29
Highly doubt Comey will say Trump didn't tell him to shut down Flynn investigation emulatorloo Jun 2017 #7
I'll be curious to learn where Chump's DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #20
I think you meant to say "not under investigation." nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #54
Trump fired him. He hates Trump with a passion! Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #24
From what I read, Comey will most likely cover the obstruction of justice stuff emulatorloo Jun 2017 #43
Trump clowned him. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #55
Yep, I think Comey is out for blood. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #89
Ding Ding Ding: We have a winner right out of the gate! Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #34
Uh-huh. "Conservatives torch Comeys credibility ahead of Senate hearing" emulatorloo Jun 2017 #59
Smh Iplayoneontv Jun 2017 #72
I agree DUgosh Jun 2017 #38
yeap, not expecting too much YCHDT Jun 2017 #61
100% agree berksdem Jun 2017 #71
Yeah, I feel the same way. I don't trust him at all. lunamagica Jun 2017 #73
Can't wait for when the first number of the double digits is a 2. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #3
Isn't Trump thinking of going to England on the day Comey testifies, and near their election? TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #5
I had to check that out. The trip was put off until October: Raine1967 Jun 2017 #11
Just today, isn't Trump thinking about heading to London to show "support?" TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #14
I had not heard that. eom Raine1967 Jun 2017 #79
If he states that Twitler did indeed pressure him to drop Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #10
The Deplorables are going to argue Chump's non compos mentis. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #15
Agreed but can you plead insanity defense for president TEB Jun 2017 #31
Maybe "non compos mentis" is a bit hyperbolic. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #41
I agree but stupid and ignorance is not a defense TEB Jun 2017 #46
The Repugs on the committee are going to try to destroy Comey. They have to. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #47
Surely my friend he will be TEB Jun 2017 #48
I loved when Sally Yates handed them there bull GOP repug crap back to them in her hearing TEB Jun 2017 #49
Then 25th Amendment? Adrahil Jun 2017 #32
And NPR will run another story... Orrex Jun 2017 #13
Three flaws with that disingenuous argument DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #17
Yes, yes, and yes (nt) Orrex Jun 2017 #18
Here's the link Orrex Jun 2017 #19
Holy Shit, that's some serious spin njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #21
Right? Orrex Jun 2017 #23
I saw that. See what they did there? NYC Liberal Jun 2017 #74
Exactly! (nt) Orrex Jun 2017 #87
I'm scheduling my whole week around Thursday. Hope he doesn't disappoint. Vinca Jun 2017 #22
Will be canceled. sarcasmo Jun 2017 #25
By who? The political fallout would be of a nuclear level. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #26
Even if he revealed Trump,threatened to kill him.... Adrahil Jun 2017 #27
It's at 37% now. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #30
I hope to sweet bany Jeebus you are right. Adrahil Jun 2017 #33
Yeap, even if Trump was filmed on camera threatening Comey's kids winger media would under report it YCHDT Jun 2017 #62
30% would crack the mindless stupid deplorable barrier. democratisphere Jun 2017 #28
I wonder what the mid terms will look like if Chump is mired in the thirties. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #37
Makes it even more important for ALL DEMS to get on the same page democratisphere Jun 2017 #42
I can't recollect when we went into a midterm with a president's approval rating that low. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #45
I think Comey knows Trump is a treacherous scumbag, and will do what is right for the country. Doodley Jun 2017 #35
Comey know a hell of a lot more about Chump than we do. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #39
I am no Comey fan, but I sincerely hope that he guts that stinking fish. nt Blue_true Jun 2017 #36
I suspect the fix may be in. But won't know until he starts talking. beachbum bob Jun 2017 #44
Zero chance of that happening oberliner Jun 2017 #58
Why will his approval go up as a result of Comey's testimony? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #67
I think it will go up slightly oberliner Jun 2017 #69
He's one point off his all time low. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #92
Comey to Trump: "You're fired." gulliver Jun 2017 #64
His job is merely to tell the truth. He's not personally in a battle. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #66
At 30% republicans will go silent. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2017 #75
I hope Big Jim has given an envelope with all his info to someone, to be opened.....J/S. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #76
As usual by one of trumpy statements he was going to blame Democrats for the firing. Thinkingabout Jun 2017 #80
Be prepared H2O Man Jun 2017 #83
What a time for Sen Kamala Harris to shine Hawaii Hiker Jun 2017 #85
I doubt he'll get that low on account of Comey. There is a hard base of support The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #86
He's at 36 now. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #93
That's great. Let's hope it keeps going lower. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #95
Maybe Trump will reappoint him! redstateblues Jun 2017 #88
Don't bet on it, news will travel rather slowly Warpy Jun 2017 #90
This will perhaps be the most dangerous week yet. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #91
No chance Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #94

mucifer

(23,545 posts)
1. Be prepared. It could be a big disappointment.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:28 AM
Jun 2017

Remember what he did right before the presidential election. I don't trust him. I hope I'm wrong.

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
70. Totally agree with Totally agree :'I am unable to comment due to the on going investigation'
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:12 PM
Jun 2017

I expect: Some minor new news....... but mostly I expect



'I am unable to comment due to the on going investigation'

'I am unable to comment due to the on going investigation'

'I am unable to comment due to the on going investigation'

'I am unable to comment due to the on going investigation'

'I am unable to comment due to the on going investigation'

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
81. Sure. PLUS, 30%? Let's get real. Trumpsters are IN for him.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jun 2017

Truth, facts, morality, patriotism, decency, even their children's futures, are not part of their decisionmaking process. Partisanship is everything.

W's supporters stayed with him for 7-3/4 years. They reelected him after he betrayed them and proved himself a liar and a failure--because he was the Republican candidate. Only at the very end, when they were forced to realize they'd backed a "loser," did his ratings on the right drop into the low 30s, and then at the very, very very end into the teens--briefly. As you'll recall, he's widely admired among them again now, though.

Rump is their Republican president now.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
82. and only after years of unjust wars, trillions of dollars spent
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:23 PM
Jun 2017

thousands of US military deaths, and 10s of thousands of injuries, a huge hurricane response failure... etc.

The final nail was the housing collapse and the loss of 10s of trillions of middle-class wealth.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
84. YES, but all blamed on US. OUR fault, not theirs.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:33 PM
Jun 2017

The right has mostly been turned into one big unified attack dog. They don't need to be told anything but that we support something to rally against it. If we support it, it's bad. If it's bad we did it.

The same holds true, actually, for a good number on the farther left who've been turned by right-wing and left-wing propaganda (often hard to distinguish from each other), whether generated in our nation or from outside enemies, against the only healthy, principled, functional political party America currently has.

This is the reality of our era, when we all exist in a blizzard of corrupted, fake information launched as weapons against us.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. He was the first one to confirm Chump was under investigation
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017

He was the first one to confirm Chump was under investigation and allowed his agents to say Chump obstructed justice.

Beside that he has no incentive to play nice with Chump after Chump disrespected him and trashed him in the press.

mucifer

(23,545 posts)
8. He could have talked about both investigations before the election
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jun 2017

He chose to publicize Hillary's emails and not speak about the trump investigation. I don't trust him. Maybe now that he was personally screwed he will be motivated to take down trump with the truth . That's what I'm hoping for.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
40. "Mildly nauseous."
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jun 2017

A partisan shill covering his ass. As in, "Oh, it makes me feel so bad. "

I'm sure we'll get more on "Hillary's emails" - and more of the year long stonewall on Trump.

Comey won't be cashin' in by betraying 'the right.' That's his bread and butter.

He's just going to clarify how Trump misunderstood poor Comey.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
50. Comey is going to defend Chump after Chump said he fired him because he's a clown?
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jun 2017

Is that how human nature works ?

The Republicans are already saying he's an unhinged and disgruntled former employee. Is he just going to take it in the ---?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
56. I am not reassured at all.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jun 2017

"He was wearing a blue blazer and noticed that the drapes were blue. So he stood in the back, right in front of the drapes, hoping Trump wouldn’t notice him camouflaged against the wall."




tblue37

(65,377 posts)
57. He had a reason for refusing to testify behind closed doors. He wants to ensure that GOP shills
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:29 PM
Jun 2017

can't twist his words the way they and their Dear Leader have been doing with his private comments (like Cheato's claim that Coney assured him three times that he was not under investigation).

Even open testimony gets twisted. Brennan and Clapper never said there was no evidence against Trump, but Trump keeps claiming they said that, and his minions keep catapulting that bit of propaganda, despite its repeated debunking.

But at least we have the video to prove they are not telling the truth about what Clapper and Brennan said. They also twisted the things Comey said the first time he testified at a hearing, but again, we had the video to prove otherwise.

Comey wants his words to be public and recorded for future public examination, because he knows he has to block GOP efforts to lie about what he says.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
65. Same reason Hillary wanted all her testimony to be public.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jun 2017

Anything is possible.

Remove the names from the players.

Does it make sense X would defend Y after Y showed him the door and called him a "showboat", a "grandstander" , and a" nut case" as he exited ?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
68. Behind closed doors he won't be able to say...
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jun 2017

"I can't speak on an ongoing investigation and classified material" like he does in these public forums.

I am amazed that Democrats consider this person to be a credible, helpful source!

He stirred up more shit "declaring Hillary innocent" multiple times than he would have just referring it all to an "unreasonable" prosecutor like he was supposed to!

I'm just saying Comey is not anyone we should be hanging our hats on to take Trump down.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
78. Yes, I did.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:05 PM
Jun 2017

It was confirmed by senators that Comey told them this was a factor - but he never mentioned it was likely a 'planted fake.'

This "good, honest man" has a lot to answer for.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
97. I think Comey's going to be proven to be net positive for America. we will see
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jun 2017

Also - the mere fact Muller was appointed right after Comey means Comey planned for this, and that alone is a good sign.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
52. tRump
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jun 2017

And yet, I remember a journalist asking Comey after the election why he publicized Clinton's woes, but not tRump's. He responded that he did not intentionally make a big deal about Clinton's emails, but rather sent a letter to Congress that was considered confidential. Chaffetz decided to publicize the letter on his Twitter feed. But more importantly, Comey said at the time that he could not bring up tRump, because tRump was just a speck in a much LARGER investigation that the Bureau has been working on for DECADES. Let that sink in.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
63. There was nothing about the letter that was confidential.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jun 2017

"On Friday, FBI Director James B. Comey sent a letter to Congress saying the bureau is investigating additional emails that appear relevant to the Hillary Clinton email case. Soon after, he sent a note to his employees explaining his decision."


To all:

This morning I sent a letter to Congress in connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation.  Yesterday, the investigative team briefed me on their recommendation with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case.  Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.

Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record.  At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression.  In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it.

Jim Comey

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/28/read-the-letter-comey-sent-to-fbi-employees-explaining-his-controversial-decision-on-the-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_term=.93b910a8a948

enid602

(8,620 posts)
96. Chaffetz put a differnet spin on it. The media took off with it.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jun 2017

Jason Chaffetz
✔ ‎@jasoninthehouse

FBI Dir just informed me, "The FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation." Case reopened

9:57 AM - 28 Oct 2016



21,867 21,867 Retweets

29,760 29,760 likes

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
6. I'm worried about that too, however, I also believe he cares about his reputation
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017

And believes himself to have morals and ethics. He was clearly worried about 45 because he took note of his concerns in writing after any interaction with him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Occam's Razor or "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jun 2017

Maybe he believes in the rule of law and is as sick as the rest of us how Chump and his criminal associates flaunt it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. I'll be curious to learn where Chump's
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I'll be curious to learn where Chump's assertion that Comey told him he was (NOT) * under investigation three times comes from. I suspect Comey said he couldn't comment.




EDITED TO ADD "NOT"

Quixote1818

(28,942 posts)
24. Trump fired him. He hates Trump with a passion!
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:00 AM
Jun 2017

The story about blending in with the curtains is not made up. He sees Trump as a slime-bag. However, I agree not to get too excited because there is only so much detail he can go into in this kind of format.

emulatorloo

(44,129 posts)
43. From what I read, Comey will most likely cover the obstruction of justice stuff
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jun 2017

in the open hearing.

That's a good start.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
55. Trump clowned him.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jun 2017

Trump said he was a grandstander and showboat and told the freaking Russian ambassador he was a nut case.


Why would Comey defend him after that?

It turns human nature on its head.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
34. Ding Ding Ding: We have a winner right out of the gate!
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:10 AM
Jun 2017

Nothing will be earth shattering on Thursday!

emulatorloo

(44,129 posts)
59. Uh-huh. "Conservatives torch Comeys credibility ahead of Senate hearing"
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jun 2017

The assholes are def running scared.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029157577

Conservatives torch Comey’s credibility ahead of Senate hearing
By Katie Glueck


WILMINGTON, N.C.

Washington will be riveted this week by the drama surrounding former FBI Director James Comey’s expected congressional testimony.

But Republicans elsewhere in the country say they couldn’t care less.

snip//

Nationally, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers, operatives and donors have expressed alarm about the complicated, multifaceted issue of Russian involvement in an American election, some of which Comey is expected to speak to this week. Some, like Rep. Mike Simpson, a Republican of Idaho, have vouched for his credibility, especially given reports that he has contemporaneous notes from conversations with Trump.

But at this convention, which offered a snapshot of the Republican grassroots, many considered the broader Russia issue as, at best, a distraction from issues like health care and the economy. And others saw the swirling questions around Russia—including the Comey investigation and coming testimony—as pure partisanship driven by Democrats and the media to undermine the legitimacy of Donald Trump’s victory last November.

“The whole thing with Russia is nonsense,” says Jim Gannon, a GOP activist in North Carolina.

“They’re desperately trying to justify why Hillary Clinton lost other than saying Democratic policies aren’t acceptable to people,” said Gannon. “This whole thing is a pretty desperate attempt at partisan politics. ‘Wow, the Russians swung the election.’ What did they do, come and vote? No.”

U.S. intelligence experts, including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, have been adamant that Moscow did in fact interfere with the 2016 campaign, and intelligence officials have said Russia pushed for hacking of Democratic officials’ emails. Russian President Vladimir Putin has denied this, saying in a recent interview with NBC’s Megyn Kelly that such an order could have come from anyone, including from Americans.

more...

berksdem

(595 posts)
71. 100% agree
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jun 2017

I am expecting nothing more than the usual bs.... I don't trust the man but I hope I am wrong.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
3. Can't wait for when the first number of the double digits is a 2.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jun 2017

Yeah, "God's speed, James Brien Comey Jr. We are in a battle for the soul of a nation."

TheBlackAdder

(28,203 posts)
5. Isn't Trump thinking of going to England on the day Comey testifies, and near their election?
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017

.

Is he trying to not only distract from Comey's television coverage, but interfere in UK politics?

.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
11. I had to check that out. The trip was put off until October:
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jun 2017

This is from a March 2017 article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/01/donald-trump-postpones-state-visitto-britain-amid-fears-will/

The US President expressed concerns about his visit, which had been planned for June, during a phone call with Theresa May last month.

The Sun report that the visit is now expected to take place from 5 to 8 October, in an attempt to avoid mass protests.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
10. If he states that Twitler did indeed pressure him to drop
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jun 2017

the investigation into Flynn and/or Russian election interference I don't see how that wouldn't be obstruction of justice. Fingers crossed.

TEB

(12,851 posts)
31. Agreed but can you plead insanity defense for president
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jun 2017

Who knows they'll probably try , spaghetti incident if it sticks will use it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
41. Maybe "non compos mentis" is a bit hyperbolic.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jun 2017

They are going to argue he of thousands of legal suits didn't know what he was doing was tantamount to "obstructing justice."

TEB

(12,851 posts)
46. I agree but stupid and ignorance is not a defense
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:21 AM
Jun 2017

But your correct they will try use it. I'm fed up with there circus on LSD.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
47. The Repugs on the committee are going to try to destroy Comey. They have to.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jun 2017

I suspect he knows it and will be prepared.

TEB

(12,851 posts)
49. I loved when Sally Yates handed them there bull GOP repug crap back to them in her hearing
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jun 2017

CruZ and the other first timer who claimed his law degree total idiots

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
32. Then 25th Amendment?
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:08 AM
Jun 2017

Although I think the GrOPers will find some way of making this okay for the Fraudulent Frog.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
13. And NPR will run another story...
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jun 2017

To assure us that Trump's terrible numbers are no worse than Bill Clinton's were.


NPR, proud member of The Liberal Media.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. Three flaws with that disingenuous argument
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jun 2017

Flaw One- Bill Clinton's disapproval never got as high as Chump's disapproval.
Flaw Two- Clinton started his tenure as pres with approximately 60% approval so he had a relatively high approval rating he could return to. Chump started at 45% and is sinking
Flaw Three- Bill Clinton didn't intentionally try to divide the nation.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
74. I saw that. See what they did there?
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:43 PM
Jun 2017

His numbers have DECLINED less than other presidents, they say.

Which means nothing because his numbers STARTED extremely low, so of course they haven't dropped as quickly. They're already near the bottom, whereas Obama started in the 60s and that was never going to last.

What a bullshit article.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
22. I'm scheduling my whole week around Thursday. Hope he doesn't disappoint.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:55 AM
Jun 2017

I've got a feeling after being called a "nutjob" he'll be out to draw blood.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
27. Even if he revealed Trump,threatened to kill him....
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jun 2017

I think his floor is about 35%. Deplorables will believe whatever it takes to keep supporting him and his hatred of Brown people.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
30. It's at 37% now.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jun 2017

He has a floor but it's not 2 points lower than it is today.

If everything breaks right for us he can end up in the high twenties/low thirties.

YCHDT

(962 posts)
62. Yeap, even if Trump was filmed on camera threatening Comey's kids winger media would under report it
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jun 2017

... or not report it at all.

Right now, outside of hugging a brown person they will support him

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
28. 30% would crack the mindless stupid deplorable barrier.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:06 AM
Jun 2017

A tough number to attain but may be possible with our resident WH idiot.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
45. I can't recollect when we went into a midterm with a president's approval rating that low.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jun 2017

Carter, Reagan, Clinton, W, and Obama were in the 40s and their parties got shellacked in the mid terms. We are in uncharted territory.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
44. I suspect the fix may be in. But won't know until he starts talking.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jun 2017

If there is a discussion by comey that trump pressured him to drop investigation of Russia, trump admin, trump campaign committee...all hell will break out. Trumps base won't abandon him but we could see low 30's approval and a growing number of conservatives running from trump....

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
67. Why will his approval go up as a result of Comey's testimony?
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jun 2017

What's the mechanism if the lede in the news is "James Comey- "Trump asked me to obstruct justice" ?


He is at 37%:


http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx


Will more Americans approve of him when they learn he tried to obstruct justice from the horse's mouth ?


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
69. I think it will go up slightly
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 01:05 PM
Jun 2017

Look at recent history: From April 3 to April 24, his approval rating went up 8 points. They dropped again but then they went up 5 points from May 15 to May 23. Think of what revelations came out during that period. May 16 is the day the NY Times article was published with the Comey memo where Trump asked him to end the Flynn investigation.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
66. His job is merely to tell the truth. He's not personally in a battle.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jun 2017

What people make of his testimony is up to them.

What we do know is that he is essentially an honest man, wrote memos contemporaneously with conversations, made a couple of big screwups (the press conf, then the October surprise), and a few other things.

He will be attacked, but if he sticks with the facts, he'll come out with his integrity intact. I think he is at heart an honorable government intelligence man.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
75. At 30% republicans will go silent.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:53 PM
Jun 2017

At 27% they will not publicly oppose Democrats starting impeachment process.

At 25% he's toast.

Impeachment is about politics, they couldn't survive as a party with that low approval and they will eat him.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
80. As usual by one of trumpy statements he was going to blame Democrats for the firing.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jun 2017

The original statement was Comey's treatment of Hillary Clinton, it was a lie but he tried to sell this. Though I was not happy Comey made I do not think it rose to the level of firing. In fact if President Obama called Comey to his office and said lines which trumpy did to get the email investigations stopped, I would have thought it was obstruction of justice. With the follow up of trumpy firing Comey and trumpy's interview saying he was going to fire Comey, his decision.

H2O Man

(73,555 posts)
83. Be prepared
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:29 PM
Jun 2017

for Mr. Comey to hit a grand slam.

That preparation includes knowing what to expect. It is apparent from reading parts of this thread that too many people do not. He will be testifying primarily upon his interactions with Trump. And responding to some faded attacks from at least one republican.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
85. What a time for Sen Kamala Harris to shine
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jun 2017

She is on the Intelligence Committee, she was a lawyer, and her name pops up as a potential presidential candiate in 2020...In my view, Thursday is a golden opportunity for her....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,709 posts)
86. I doubt he'll get that low on account of Comey. There is a hard base of support
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:38 PM
Jun 2017

that won't budge no matter what he does. If he's at 38-ish now, that is likely to erode but probably not below about 35% unless/until he's outed as a Russian spy or something equally criminal. Nixon's lowest was about 26%, and that was at the time he resigned. There were (and probably still are) people who thought Nixon was framed, even after the "smoking gun" tape became public.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
90. Don't bet on it, news will travel rather slowly
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jun 2017

especially among lazy bastards who rely on television to inform them. Give it about 2-3 weeks to go mouth to mouth and then sink in.

And that's if Comey doesn't come off as a sour grapes spitting fired employee.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
91. This will perhaps be the most dangerous week yet.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jun 2017

Trump is encouraging another terrorist attack. (Chatter in the twitter/IC is speculating that Putin is funding the attacks.)

Trumpy may be bucking for a crisis to divert from Comey's killer testimony. Trumpy is shifting into panic mode. It's do or die for him.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
94. No chance
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jun 2017

This will not be widely watched, not by the group required to abandon Trump if he were to free fall all the way to 30%.

Since it won't be watched everything depends on interpretation, and the right wing spin machines will be in full force.

Too many people around here think the right wingers are looking at the same variables and sources and conclusions we are. It's not even close. You basically can't move the perspective meter far enough before you catch them.

Even if Comey is prepared I'm sure there will be aspects he simply can't comment on, or doesn't feel comfortable taking the assumptions far enough to damn Trump.

I fully expect to be disappointed. There's a reason Watergate stands alone. Every time something is compared it's mostly Happy Adjusters reaching for the extremes.

I would be very satisfied for Trump to remain at current approval range. We should be doing registration drives right now, as I mentioned yesterday. I default to big picture logic, which includes the likelihood that Trump's numbers will bounce back upward. You very rarely have sustained stretches of implosion and bad news, without something happening that works in favor of the president, even if he doesn't deserve it.

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