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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:11 PM Jun 2017

Vox - Trump's anti-ISIS war keeps killing huge numbers of civilians - Can Trump complain?

During the presidential campaign, Donald Trump sent a clear message to voters: He would “bomb the shit” out of ISIS. Upon being elected, he has given the U.S. military far more leeway to engage in attacks with less concern about civilian casualties. Instead, of drone attacks, we have Trump authorizing the use of 21,000 pound bombs. With Trump's indiscriminate directive to "bomb the shit" out of ISIS with little regard to civilian casualties, how can Trump claim the moral high ground when similar attacks are launched among the U.S.'s allies?

Indeed, could the U.S.'s NATO allies argue that Trump's willingness to cause civilian casualties is increasing the risk of attacks on civilians.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/26/15701262/trumps-civilian-mosul-iraq-syria-mayadin

It’s becoming clear that the Pentagon has a civilian casualties problem. Two recent events make that fairly evident, and it’s showing the problems the anti-ISIS coalition has to keep bystanders off the coroner’s table.

In the midst of Trump’s ramped-up campaign to defeat ISIS, more and more civilians have died in Iraq and Syria. Despite the advanced military techniques of the US-led, anti-ISIS coalition, it still cannot stop killing non-combatants.

Yesterday, the Department of Defense responded to an incident that killed 105 civilians in Mosul, Iraq, back in March when a bomb was dropped on a building with two ISIS snipers — and over a hundred civilians.

On Friday, Al Jazeera reports that more than 106 civilians, including 42 children, died during two days of bombing in Al-Mayadeen, Syria, by the US-led anti-ISIS coalition. The planes fired strikes at buildings that housed families of ISIS fighters.

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Vox - Trump's anti-ISIS war keeps killing huge numbers of civilians - Can Trump complain? (Original Post) TomCADem Jun 2017 OP
Hearts and minds underpants Jun 2017 #1
Easy answer: Russia funds ISIS to destabilize the west. re: UK bombings mhw Jun 2017 #2
It's preparation atreides1 Jun 2017 #3
Trump said he would take out the families of ISIS fighters. Did an airstrike in Syria do just that TomCADem Jun 2017 #4
He hasn't implemented his "victory in 30 days" yet SHRED Jun 2017 #5
 

mhw

(678 posts)
2. Easy answer: Russia funds ISIS to destabilize the west. re: UK bombings
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jun 2017

Russia, Syria & USA are the creators & funders of the ISIS bs.
IMO


atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. It's preparation
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jun 2017

This way US aircraft won't shy away from dropping bombs on American civilians, just as the Army and Marines won't hesitate to fire on Americans who protest against Trump!

Go ahead convince me that the military automatons won't kill the very people they claim to be fighting to protect!!!

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
4. Trump said he would take out the families of ISIS fighters. Did an airstrike in Syria do just that
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jun 2017

I don't think funding is the issue with Trump. Someone could offer me millions of dollars, but I am not going to go on a killing spree. However, when you have Trump fulfilling his promise to take out the families of ISIS fighters, then you have folks who are willing to return the favor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/27/trump-said-he-would-take-out-the-families-of-isis-fighters-did-an-airstrike-in-syria-do-just-that/?utm_term=.6d74cdae24ed

Back when he was still a candidate and not president of the United States, Donald Trump had a suggestion for winning the battle against the Islamic State: “Take out their families.”

“The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” Trump said during an appearance on Fox News' “Fox and Friends” in December 2015. “They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families.”

The comment prompted criticism from other candidates, who argued that such a tactic would constitute a war crime.

A year and a half later, Trump is now president — and on Friday, a monitoring group said that airstrikes from a U.S.-backed coalition on a town in Syria had killed a large number of relatives of Islamic State fighters.

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