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Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:04 PM Jun 2017

London, my home city...

Obviously the recent events are tragic. But just because I am originally from London, and London is a major western city, does not make these any more or less tragic than that if it had taken place anywhere else in the world. And I don't just mean just "Western Countries".

As tragic and terrible as the news from London is, it will be orders of magnitude more tragic if the British Government and other western powers overreact.

By overreacting, I mean blindly attacking a target that has such a nebulous network, such as ISIS.

By overreacting, I mean cracking down on the civil liberties of others.

It's no coincidence that Donald Trump couldn't keep his damn "twitter-mouth" shut, determined to fan the flames.

So yes the London attacks are a tragedy, one that can easily become far worse.

In my opinion, it is more effective to let London's not inconsiderable police force handle this... because how, how, can you ever stop somebody in a vehicle using it as a weapon? You can't.

It's instructive to note that the Western Media treated the recent attack on a Muslim woman in Portland, Oregon (which cost two men their lives when protecting her), did not call it a "terrorist" incident/attack.

However, her attacker was white (and a white supremacist) ... so it comes as no surprise that this was classified as a crime, and not a terrorist attack.

An unfair comparison? No...and the far right in the US (and other countries) does not exactly have a stellar record of non-violence. I can list some if needed, but do
I really have to?

-MAS

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London, my home city... (Original Post) Puzzler Jun 2017 OP
how many people were murdered by "non-terrorists" in the USA the past 24 hrs? nt msongs Jun 2017 #1
K & R Heartstrings Jun 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author bluecollar2 Jun 2017 #3
I've often thought an appropriate White House intervention Warpy Jun 2017 #4
London, etc. moondust Jun 2017 #5

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
2. K & R
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:15 PM
Jun 2017

I completely agree and my heart goes out to all involved from your homeland....

Lived in London for 3 months.....what a beautiful, memorable, and full of architectural history area!

Response to Puzzler (Original post)

Warpy

(111,280 posts)
4. I've often thought an appropriate White House intervention
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jun 2017

would be to break all Orange Shit Trumpet's fingers so he can't use his obsolete, insecure phone to access Twitter.

Every time he does, he proves again that he is an ignorant, arrogant boor who couldn't be trusted with managing a hot dog stand on the street, much less the government.

Please let the people you know back in London know that not all of us over here support him and that many of us hate his guts and want him gone as quickly as possible, and we don't particularly care how: resignation, impeachment, CVA, MI, being quietly led off to the loony bin, we'll take them all.

And no, no one's hands are clean. After all, we started the mess in Iraq that has since spread.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
5. London, etc.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:42 PM
Jun 2017

I've been to London several times and loved it--though not since 9/11 and the age of radical Islamic terrorism. It was so nice riding the trains, subways, and buses of GB and Europe at all hours of the day without any concerns for one's safety.

Theresa May: Internet must be regulated to prevent terrorism

I've wondered why al Qaeda and ISIS websites/communication channels haven't been monitored by authorities and shut down. Maybe not possible?

I suppose if Western cities were to be rebuilt today they would separate the roadways from the sidewalks with concrete barriers of some kind.

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