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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:46 PM Jun 2017

How the Trump-Russia data machine games Google to fool Americans.

*** PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING. THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT JUSTICE BY EXCERPTING A FEW PARAGRAPHS.***

In the war that the writer below describes, older generations have one advantage: we tend to give more weight to online sites related to traditional media -- the WA Post, NY Times, Newsweek, etc, and our cities' newspapers.

But people who didn't grow up with a newspaper on the front steps are less likely to be able to distinguish between traditional sources of vetted news, and cites like Info Wars and the Daily Caller.

And they're not teaching this stuff in most high schools, or even colleges.

SO HOW DO WE PROTECT OUR POPULATION FROM RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA AND OTHER FORMS OF FAKE NEWS?

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/06/how-the-trump-russia-data-machine-games-google-to.html


"Google, whether you’re aware of it or not, is a total slaughterhouse. Trump’s data team (he’s reportedly set up a “war room” to combat the Russia story) has weaponized information, and for about a year now has been slaying American brains: Trump supporters’ brains. It started with the election, then died down, but now it’s coming back, vengeful and desperate.

"As a result, we’re at a pivotal point not just in the life of our democracy, but in how we think, read, and make choices. Selective information is being presented to us in a way that encourages selective reading and offers psychological and social rewards for, to put it bluntly, being stupid and submissive and spreading stupid to submit others."

SNIP

"This is, of course, about the truth, and about the cognitive and emotional vulnerabilities of Americans. This is nothing new for propagandists. What’s different now is that this propaganda is being gamed by professionals in a massive, orchestrated data campaign at a volume, pace, and consistency that not only muddies the truth, but completely eclipses the truth. Destroys the very notion of truth.

"I can describe it in no other terms but a war."

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How the Trump-Russia data machine games Google to fool Americans. (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2017 OP
This is scary and a must read. How the Trump-Russia Data Machine Games Google to Fool Americans Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #1
First-class analysis! The_jackalope Jun 2017 #2
Welcome to D, The_jackalope! pnwmom Jun 2017 #3
Thanks! The_jackalope Jun 2017 #4
This is incredible news that deserves a lot of coverage. This is a key moment to fight this Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #7
I can see The_jackalope Jun 2017 #8
It feels so disgusting like a breach, like a gross person trying to grab you by the whatever. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #11
Interesting I've noticed all the con websites Historic NY Jun 2017 #5
Google execs are probably having interminable meetings right now. The_jackalope Jun 2017 #9
Definitely is a major cause in disinformation & fake news Historic NY Jun 2017 #14
Not true. ronnie624 Jun 2017 #15
When did you try it? Historic NY Jun 2017 #16
He actually said the bottom of page three. ronnie624 Jun 2017 #17
I got mostly fake news on page one! Searching:trump no evidence collusion Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #22
KnR! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #6
kick KewlKat Jun 2017 #10
Google - too big for its own boots? Like Facebook and Twitter BSdetect Jun 2017 #12
k&r BSdetect Jun 2017 #13
In the meantime we have this story from 2011 on twitter: Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #18
Figures. dalton99a Jun 2017 #19
Oh, great. pnwmom Jun 2017 #20
Misinfotainment Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #21
I think it means that the bots aren't just a way to show off that you have pnwmom Jun 2017 #23
edit: The article I posted above is from 2011. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #24
 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
1. This is scary and a must read. How the Trump-Russia Data Machine Games Google to Fool Americans
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jun 2017

A lot of info there.

How the Trump-Russia Data Machine Games Google to Fool Americans

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/06/how-the-trump-russia-data-machine-games-google-to.html

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
2. First-class analysis!
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:32 PM
Jun 2017

There was a surge of interest a couple of days ago in the sudden expansion of Trump's bot followers. From the article:

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Trump is being followed by 15 million robots.

The Washington Post just ran a pretty cowardly piece about Trump’s bot following. They titled it “Something Fishy Is Going on with Trump’s Twitter Account,” but didn’t say why this fishiness mattered in the first place. Who really cares if his followers are fake? So what if he wears a Twitter toupee? (A Twoupee, if you will.) We’re used to that from Trump.

Here’s where WaPo wouldn’t, for some reason, go: those bots aren’t just digital codpieces. They’re attack vectors for weaponized information.
**************

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
11. It feels so disgusting like a breach, like a gross person trying to grab you by the whatever.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jun 2017

Sneaky and disrespectful of boundaries.

Corrupt, mendacious, slick, malicious, covert & overt, hate-full, dangerous.

Like a pedophile smiling while grooming it's target.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
5. Interesting I've noticed all the con websites
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:56 PM
Jun 2017

will take up pages until you find a MSM site. Is Google doing anything about it?

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
9. Google execs are probably having interminable meetings right now.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017

This is weaponized social engineering, and it must be countered somehow. I bet the executive suite feels like an anthill that's been poked with a stick.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
14. Definitely is a major cause in disinformation & fake news
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jun 2017

when lazy people search and end up encountering one of the fake stories, being promulgated.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
15. Not true.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Mon Jun 5, 2017, 01:22 PM - Edit history (1)

I tried his Google experiment, typing, 'trump no evidence russian collusion'. The author claims no MSM sources appear until page three, but my search resulted in almost all MSM sources on page one, and all of them confirm that no evidence has yet been released by the IC.

The doofus that authored this drivel, appears to be making a case for censorship. Beware pining for an internet that tailors information to your a priori conclusions and your political biases.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
16. When did you try it?
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jun 2017

I just did it again myself and its all broken up..so perhaps it was taken care of.

I think it works like the old Stantorum deal from a few years back.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
17. He actually said the bottom of page three.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jun 2017

He said nothing appeared from the NYT until page five.

But it was the MSM that promoted Trump as a legitimate candidate for president, in their fevered pursuit of ad revenue. Also remember, that they regularly lie by omission, and that they disseminated Bush administration propaganda, helping it to manufacture consent for the illegal invasion of Iraq, so I would never trust them as arbiters of 'real' news. There are alternative sources, that are VASTLY more credible and informative than mainstream news media.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
22. I got mostly fake news on page one! Searching:trump no evidence collusion
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jun 2017
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+no+evidence+collusion&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS527US527&oq=trump+no+evidence+collusion&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

There Remains No Evidence Of Trump-Russia Collusion - Forbes
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Still No Evidence Donald Trump Colluded With Russia | The Daily Caller
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May 27, 2017 - The conspiracy theory that President Donald Trump colluded with the Russians in interfering with the 2016 election is slowly falling apart as the ...

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BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
12. Google - too big for its own boots? Like Facebook and Twitter
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jun 2017

They are targeting younger people and the easily duped.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
18. In the meantime we have this story from 2011 on twitter:
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jun 2017

Last edited Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

edit: The article is from 2011.




Twitter confirms 'significant' round of funding led by Russian investment company
Twitter has confirmed it has received “significant funding” from Yuri Milner’s DST Global.

Link here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/digital-media/8676064/Twitter-confirms-significant-round-of-funding-led-by-Russian-investment-company.html

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
21. Misinfotainment
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jun 2017

"Here’s where WaPo wouldn’t, for some reason, go: those bots aren’t just digital codpieces.

They’re attack vectors for weaponized information.

What does that mean?"

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
23. I think it means that the bots aren't just a way to show off that you have
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jun 2017

zillions of followers.'

They use bots to insert fake posts into the stream.

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