WOW: The Associated Press on the President of the United States...

[kpete]

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the rest:
https://www.apnews.com/079e907d81d14e7ca56eb5279f285f71/AP-FACT-CHECK:-Attack-draws-visceral-Trump-tweets,-not-facts?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics

Link to tweet

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ap-fact-check-trump-cant-be-trusted-accurate-info-terror-abroad

[spanone]

1. K&R...

[Cartaphelius]

41. To: WH Press Pool

Question with follow-up to Spawn Schiester or his evil twin sister Smellyann Con;

How many terrorist attacks from the seven banned nations have been committed in the U.S. since Donald Trump started his run for the Presidency?

(answer should be less than 5)

Follow-up: For that same time period, how many homegrown terrorist attacks have occurred in the US?


So, who do we really need to guard ourselves against?

[lunasun]

2. One of my few choices for breaking news so glad that AP put this out. I remain confident

that it has been and will be hysteria hyperbole free and also not rushing out garbage reports just so they can be the first to break a story. Because if you are the first to break a story and it's just untrue or half true garbled garbage what hit or miss service do you provide?

[NewJeffCT]

3. he can't be counted on for accuracy

at any time.

[DDySiegs]

10. NewJeff - I propose an Amendment to your statement

He can't be counted on to not tell lies at any time.

Inaccuracy implies inadvertent or negligent mistake. Trump is intentionally lying more often than not. And when not lying he communicates with reckless disregard of the truth.

[calimary]

27. Welcome to DU, DDySiegs!

There are many amendments that are well-earned and make sense.

Your suggestion just happens to be true, too. NOTHING that comes out of this jackass's mouth can be trusted, or given any credibility. Because he's such a constant, pathological, congenital, deliberate, and unapologetic LIAR.

[not fooled]

32. Yep

and the orange monstrosity's penchant for lying is ON TOP OF the ongoing lies told by the GOPee to fool the 'Murican public into believing their crackpot economic libertarian crap. That campaign has been pursued in earnest since raygun if not before. The snooze media has been uninterested in giving airtime to strong advocates for FDR's policies in order to counter the Heriturd Fuckdation-style kochbot propaganda.

So, now we have lies on top of lies.

[Doitnow]

33. HIs untruth telling was evident as soon as he picked his cabinet. How come he was

so spot-on selecting the exact opposite person for every single one of their jobs. He made not one single "mistake" in the doing-----gangsters all. ----Members of a gang stick to one another----until they don't.

[iluvtennis]

43. You got that right.

[Amaryllis]

36. I don't know that he intentionally lies. I think he lives in an alternative world where there is no

no distinction between truth and not truth and he cannot tell a difference. Delusional.

[Wounded Bear]

4. The truth is out there...

This is pretty obvious, and has been true of Trump since the beginning.

[Akamai]

5. Not only true of trump but also for the whole Republican party.

[Hortensis]

6. Extremely subjective. What's the crooked AP up to now? Remember

their comey-style job on Hillary? Only the worst of their offerings resulted in blow-back, the giant whopper about the Foundation and donors with so outrageously phony numbers and ridiculous (huh?!!) excuses for using them. But it wasn't the only one.

And this is using the same technique -- the highly negative "headline" that most people don't get past, with some backpedaling to a more defendable message in the body that most don't read.

I always wondered who the AP may have been colluding with to throw the election to the Republicans.

And I wonder who they're colluding with now.

Notably, the plutocrat powers controlling today's GOP have several of their people in that line for the presidency. Only Rump's popularity with his base stands between them and installing a President Pence or even a President Ryan, should they decide one is needed.

[lisby]

9. Seriously?

You ought to be glad the AP exists. Sorry, but I am one of those people you are disparaging. The hatred being thrown at all of us, at whatever level (because I am just an average Jane), is really ugly indeed.

[DFW]

13. Do you by any chance work for the AP out of their NYC HQ?

The reason I ask is because about ten years ago, I found for them a very significant artifact from their history that is now in their museum there.

[grantcart]

17. what did you find?

[DFW]

23. It was a bowl engraved and inscribed to one of their founders for 25 years of service

This guy was either one of the founders or THE founder of the AP in 1900. They had a newspaper clipping in their museum from 1925 with a photo of this guy accepting the bowl as recognition of 25 years of service.

I was in NYC one January, somewhere around ten years ago, on the phone to some friends at Heritage in Dallas, and they said, "hey you have some strong connections to the national press. Do you know anyone at the AP?" I said no, but why? They told me some antiquities dealer in Connecticut had sent this bowl down to them, and they really didn't know what to do with it. I didn't know yet about the article in the AP museum. I told them, I'd ask and get back to them.

I called up Helen Thomas and asked who was the best person to ask at AP about this, and she recommended the president of the AP. I had no idea who that was, but of course Helen did. I called up the AP, as their HQ is in New York, and asked to speak to their president. He was "in a meeting (of course, yeah, right)," and what was it about, anyway? I explained about the bowl. Well, the guy's meeting must have been cut VERY short, because he called me back within 90 seconds and asked if I could come over. I took a taxi over there, got issued a pass, and was brought up to his office. He knew who my dad was, of course, since my dad had been a past president of the Gridiron Club in D.C., but I had never had anything to do with the AP before. Anyway, we had a nice time, chatted for about half an hour, and then he took me down to their museum and showed me the original newspaper clipping from 1925. There in the photo was the guy accepting the bowl. I told him I'd put him in touch with Heritage. The president, his name was Tom Curley, said they thought the bowl itself must have lost forever somewhere in the course of the last 80 years. After all, it contained nearly two POUNDS of solid gold, so it contained a certain amount of intrinsic value. They never dreamed they'd ever see it, let alone hold it in their hands.

I was down in Dallas a couple of days later, and saw the bowl. Pretty impressive. Had its own custom wooden box, really fancy engraving, pretty impressive object. This guy must have really been revered by the AP back in 1925. Anyway, I had to head back to Europe, but I put Heritage in touch with Tom Curley, and the bowl now rests in their museum in New York.

[WinkyDink]

44. Gen. Clark and now a gold treasure! You have had, and I hope still have, an

amazing life!

[DFW]

45. I promise you

Just a string of coincidental events interspersed by long stretches of getting up early after too little sleep for my day job, just like everybody else.

[Hortensis]

19. EXTREMELY seriously. The AP is a dangerously big disseminator.

The messages they send out blanket this entire nation, and many others, like a blizzard of snow, going to every newspaper, on-line medium, and radio station and to almost every household and workplace.

And that HUGE lie about Clinton they covered the nation with wasn't just a red flag waving down some lonely road, it was a big wet-rag slap in the face for everyone who didn't have their heads safely tucked in the ground.

They had to retract this blatant, 100%-false lie against the Democratic Party's candidate, but neither they nor Comey (so far), have been investigated for WHY they did it, to what purpose, and if they colluded with others to subvert the election.

[Zambero]

18. Not to forget, the media is the "enemy of the people"

in the simplistic self-serving universe of Donald Trump and his minions. All (bad) news is "fake" news.

But seriously as far as AP goes, does critical thinking enter into this discussion, or should we simply tune them out altogether?

[bdamomma]

7. He is nothing but a con.

he needs to go.

[Applan]

42. Exactly. He's a con man.

By definition, having conned enough people into voting for him, he's the most successful con man who ever lived.

[world wide wally]

8. We knew this when he started. I pointed it out some months back as well.

How on Earth would anyone, besides his staunchest supporters, go to war for this fuckng liar?

[Duppers]

24. Hell yes we knew!

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Anyone with a room-temperature IQ who had watched a couple of news sources and read any real news articles knew. It was easy as hell and Susan Sarandon should've known better.

We knew what this moron stood for. Only the dumbest FuckNewz viewers, the racists were fooled. The 1% knew but didn't and don't care as long as their taxes are cut and the Market stays up. They're soulless.

[DK504]

11. So nice the AP says the Twitler is untrustworthy

Where were they in the run up to the election? Or the months after he lost the popular vote. I haven't seen an article that wasn't either glowing or middle of the road. Welcome to party.

[L. Coyote]

12. Trump cant be counted on to process accurate information accurately.

[MFM008]

20. How about

Maggot is an insane liar who lies and idiots believe him?

[LWilliams]

14. AP Pulls Zero Punches

In my line of work I subscribe to AP Stylebook updates. They pull no punches. A year or so ago they sent out a Stylebook update about climate change that said, in so many words, "Use the phrase 'climate change' instead of 'global warming.' Climate change is real, it is happening, it is verified science. Do not use the phrase 'climate change skeptic.' Use 'climate change denier' instead." One of their more recent updates had to do with the use of the word "addiction," specifically concerning addiction as a disease with genetic risk factors vs. abuse or risky use. The bottom line was, "Don't assume everyone who engages in risky use has an addiction."

Also, their recent ruling on the use of the phrase "same-sex marriage" is really interesting. Their statement is that in the states where it is legal, same-sex marriage is no different from heterosexual marriage, and should only be distinguished when it is relevant to the story. So in the states where it is legal, writers are instructed to say things like this: "Bob and Doug dated for two years before their marriage in July." They went on to say that "sex" is not synonymous with "gender," and cross-referenced to an article about that.

So this from AP about Trump doesn't surprise me. AP is a reality-based institution doing their part in the best way that they can, much like Merriam-Webster Dictionary. I am a big fan of both.

[calimary]

29. Welcome to DU, LWilliams!

As a retired AP reporter, I appreciate this. I still have my old AP Stylebook (and UPI's version, too, just for good measure). It's really great that they stay on their toes about this stuff. As we've seen from the Jackass-in-Chief, words matter. Wordings and phrasings matter. And accuracy matters. Really glad to see the official word on "climate change deniers", for example. That's EXACTLY what they are and how they should be described. It's critically important, the way these things are described in the media. Lazy writing can be damaging and have serious repercussions.

Good habits are hard to break. I still write out the word for numbers from one to eleven. Even in text-messaging. I've been trying to change that in texts and tweets. Hard to do!

[jaysunb]

35. +1 n/t

[Scurrilous]

15. K&R

[Madam45for2923]

16. Abroad and here too, I bet.

[Achilleaze]

21. yet republicans welcome lies from their Draft Dodger in Chief

which shows you how low republican "values" are - they eat up Comrade Casino's lies as if they were candy-coated dingleberries, and then theyy work to shove those lies into the minds of American citizens.

deplorable

[mahatmakanejeeves]

22. Link to the AP_Politics Twitter feed:

#APFACTCHECK: Trump statements on London attack
have been subject to factual challenge:

Link to tweet

[lark]

25. It's actually much simpler than this, the simplest ever!

If his lips or tiny fingers are moving, he's lying! The truth is not in him, only hate and greed and the desire for wanton destruction of everything good.

[Mountain Mule]

28. Yep, like I always say "You can tell that Trump's lying when his lips are moving"!

I read thru that AP story. Lie after lie after lie. At this point I think his base is actually cultivating stupidity. They probably sniff mucho glue on every covfefe break!

[Jim Dandy]

26. MAGA Might Actually Get Axed

[workinclasszero]

30. No! You don't say?!

Trump was the original birther wasn't he?

The asshole would tell a lie if the truth would work better, just out of habit!

It's funny as hell to me how the news media that got the scumbag elected are so surprised at Resident Trump's poo throwing antics now.

Apparently they thought a 70 year old con man lying sack of shit would suddenly pivot and become a statesman or a person that gives a shit about anyone other than his self. DUH!

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

[dalton99a]

31. Something we've known for a long, long time

[Honeycombe8]

34. I'm SO GLAD that the AP & a large group of citizens knows this!!! He lies about everything! nt

[BigDemVoter]

37. NO Shit. . ..

What a refreshing sight to see a media outlet that isn't too goddamned afraid to call Pussy Grabber a LIAR.

[VOX]

38. He can't be counted on to do anything. Except to put #1 first.

And if that means making a mess of things, then so be it.

Therefore, #45 has got to go.

[pbmus]

39. Yesterday was not soon enough for him to be gone...

[tanyev]

40. They could have left off the last eight words.