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Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:26 PM Jun 2017

Prediction: Comey's testimony won't live up to expectatations

I think that folks on here, and elsewhere, will be bitterly disappointed with Comey's testimony. I don't think that it will be the bombshell that people expect. In fact, he may largely exonerate Trump.

Too many powerful interests have too much at stake and would take a huge hit if Trump fails. No amount of malfeasance, illegality, and sheer incompetence from Trump will stop that.

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Prediction: Comey's testimony won't live up to expectatations (Original Post) Yavin4 Jun 2017 OP
I don't want you to be right Rorey Jun 2017 #1
I fear you're right. It will be some cockamamie contradictory babble and in the end Squinch Jun 2017 #2
Yeah, a lot of smug, "I can't answer thats." Maybe that's Alice11111 Jun 2017 #7
Yes. And he'll throw in at least one sermon of some kind. Squinch Jun 2017 #10
Which will make us "mildly nauseous." Alice11111 Jun 2017 #13
Completely agree. cwydro Jun 2017 #16
Like Fitzmas but a lot worse? nt winstars Jun 2017 #3
Comey will at least show up. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #4
Now THAT made me snort! cwydro Jun 2017 #18
Oh man, you dug up one of the most disappointing events I have been suppressing. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #36
I got no expectations Cattledog Jun 2017 #5
I enjoyed that. Thx Alice11111 Jun 2017 #14
Love that song! thanks! emulatorloo Jun 2017 #51
I'm going into it cautiously optimistic mvd Jun 2017 #6
Of course it won't. kacekwl Jun 2017 #8
I will hold my opinion until I hear Comey's testimony... chillfactor Jun 2017 #9
Expectations here are way too high emulatorloo Jun 2017 #11
The media was hyping it all weekend, as it would be the Alice11111 Jun 2017 #15
Agreed. From what I've read he will focus on meetings with Trump. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #50
Agreed. Xolodno Jun 2017 #12
Trump would never let him testify if he was going to spill the beans. Yavin4 Jun 2017 #17
Have to disagee a bit... Xolodno Jun 2017 #28
But it might... FM123 Jun 2017 #19
Don't get your hopes up. n/t Yavin4 Jun 2017 #20
Many On DU Are Anxiously Awaiting The Rover & Cheney Indictments SoCalMusicLover Jun 2017 #21
We got Libby's scalp. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #26
We Got Nothing SoCalMusicLover Jun 2017 #29
We got 40 scalps in Watergate, including the presidents and vice presidents* DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #34
If he only says "yes, trump asked me to make the investigation into Flynn go away" and then leaves NightWatcher Jun 2017 #22
Comey's dying to exculpate the man who called him a "showboat" , "grandstander" , and a "nut case." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #23
Trump is a figure head for super powerful interests. Yavin4 Jun 2017 #24
What powerful interests ? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #27
Don't be fooled. Yavin4 Jun 2017 #43
Trump is killing American brands. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #44
what else can you see in your crystal ball? so spooky! PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #53
I think his answers will meet my expectations. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2017 #25
What legal exposure does Comey have that would lead him to take the 5 th ? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #33
If Mueller allows it, he'll stick to what is in the memos... HopeAgain Jun 2017 #35
The testimony which will be given on Wed & Thur is NOT for our fucking Entertainment MedusaX Jun 2017 #30
I agree with most of what you said... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #32
Entertainment and Indictment are NOT mutually exclusive. And, mean indictment in the Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #37
Thanks for this! Wednesday is bigger, though. furtheradu Jun 2017 #58
I agree orangecrush Jun 2017 #63
Thank-you Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #65
No idea since I really don't have any expectations about Comey still_one Jun 2017 #31
I don't know about "bitterly disappointed" gratuitous Jun 2017 #38
this is for show, the real deal will be when mueller gets him behind closed doors. spanone Jun 2017 #39
PREDICTIONS Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #40
I'm predicting the same thing... LeftInTX Jun 2017 #57
That's the logical perspective Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #41
dont be so pessimistic.. stewrat Jun 2017 #42
I only expect him to confirm what we already know. Tatiana Jun 2017 #45
I think the spectacle of it will be damaging Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #46
When you have the media making a ratings-hunting production out of the upcoming testimony BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #47
Knowing the congressional leadership is meeting with chump this week kimbutgar Jun 2017 #48
Knew the moment it was announced that Trump wasn't seeking executive privilege Jake Stern Jun 2017 #49
I won't be disappointed. Expecting nothing. Will try to follow but glad I'm working and can't lunasun Jun 2017 #52
CNN has a count down clock now Nevernose Jun 2017 #54
That count down clock has been there for a week!!! LeftInTX Jun 2017 #60
... orangecrush Jun 2017 #64
... leftstreet Jun 2017 #72
All he has to do is confirm what we already know... dchill Jun 2017 #55
My expectation is that it will trigger an avalanche of idiotic tweets from Trump grantcart Jun 2017 #56
Sure hope you're wrong about that... guess we'll soon see. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #59
I'm not expecting any smoking guns... Baconator Jun 2017 #61
Considering all the best stuff is classsifed nini Jun 2017 #62
Prediction: Comey's testimony won't live up to expectations. LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #66
Anyone who expects Trump will be immediately frogmarched out of the WH will be disappointed kcr Jun 2017 #67
Depends how n expectations, I think. Adrahil Jun 2017 #68
Perhaps, however, leftynyc Jun 2017 #69
I think that most people here on DU are looking for a Perry Mason moment Yavin4 Jun 2017 #70
They have more of a chance leftynyc Jun 2017 #71

Squinch

(50,956 posts)
2. I fear you're right. It will be some cockamamie contradictory babble and in the end
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:28 PM
Jun 2017

he'll give us nothing because he doesn't want to leave the limelight.

That guy really loves this attention.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
7. Yeah, a lot of smug, "I can't answer thats." Maybe that's
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

why DT'S lawyers told him to let it go...behind the scenes negotiations. Sure, it shouldn't be happening, but it does.

Maybe he will want to redeem his low life reputation, and he will throw a curve.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
6. I'm going into it cautiously optimistic
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:33 PM
Jun 2017

Trump will likely fail anyway due to his stupidity. It may not give all we want, but after what Trump did to him, Comey shouldn't be playing nice.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
8. Of course it won't.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jun 2017

I'm just waiting for a patriot who has the information needed to jail all those involved. I know they are out there but probably don't know who they can trust with this information. With out that we're screwed because the mountain of circumstantial evidence we have won't put a dent in trumps or the GOP armor.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
9. I will hold my opinion until I hear Comey's testimony...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jun 2017

we can speculate all we want.....but nothing is real until words come out of his mouth......

emulatorloo

(44,133 posts)
11. Expectations here are way too high
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jun 2017

Some folks are building this up in their heads and expect it to be apocalyptic.

That being said his description of Trumps attempted interference into an ongoing FBI is not going to "exonerate" Trump.

No doubt the Hannitys of this world will attempt to spin it that way though.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
15. The media was hyping it all weekend, as it would be the
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jun 2017

Most watched testimony ever. If he couldn't testify about things that were classified before, he still can't testify about those things.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
12. Agreed.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jun 2017

If asked, if Dump asked him to drop the Russia investigation, his response will be "I can't comment on an ongoing investigation". It'll just me more smoke.

Now if he outright says "Yes, the president asked me to drop the investigation"....then my jaw will drop. Because it means if he got the ok to mention that, then there is a landslide of shit that is far worse to come.

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
17. Trump would never let him testify if he was going to spill the beans.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jun 2017

Once the tax cuts and de-regulations are in place, then they will go after Trump.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
28. Have to disagee a bit...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:08 PM
Jun 2017

It was reported earlier they were looking at stopping him by invoking executive privilege. That often coined term that gets used often by Presidents...but never gets in front of the Supreme Court, which means it won't hold up. But yeah, Comey won't and can't spill the beans in public. But if he did....I'll be floored.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
19. But it might...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jun 2017

I am really hoping there is some big crazy trumpy bombshell and our collective jaws will hit the floor!
A girl can dream, right?

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
29. We Got Nothing
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:08 PM
Jun 2017

Libby did not go to jail. I'm sure he's doing just fine now with some high paid consultant/lobbyist gig.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
34. We got 40 scalps in Watergate, including the presidents and vice presidents*
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:17 PM
Jun 2017

Indictment is a high bar.







*Agnew resigned over malfeasance as Maryland governor.


I am confident. I think we beat these bastards. To think otherwise would be to be a quitter and I rather play in the 101.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
22. If he only says "yes, trump asked me to make the investigation into Flynn go away" and then leaves
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jun 2017

it is enough for an Obstruction charge in my opinion.

I don't know of other ways he can finesse it that does not contradict trump and therefore lead to obstruction.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
23. Comey's dying to exculpate the man who called him a "showboat" , "grandstander" , and a "nut case."
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jun 2017

I mean that's what any of us would do.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
27. What powerful interests ?
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:07 PM
Jun 2017

Here's the list of the richest people in America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Forbes_400

Eight or nine of the top ten think he's a malignant clown and voted for Hillary.


The so called deep state (the permanent bureaucracy) thinks he a fool.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
44. Trump is killing American brands.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:32 PM
Jun 2017

That's why Robert Iger of Disney and Elon Musk of Tesla resigned from any Trump council.


Go back to my list:


https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2016/10/04/forbes-400-the-full-list-of-the-richest-people-in-america-2016/#618804ba22f4


The only one in the top ten who voted for Chump is David Koch.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
25. I think his answers will meet my expectations.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:04 PM
Jun 2017

My expectations include dodging, diversions, and possible references to the fifth amendment.

I don't expect much drama, at least not in the public hearings.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
33. What legal exposure does Comey have that would lead him to take the 5 th ?
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:16 PM
Jun 2017

That's the only circumstance in which one can invoke it.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
35. If Mueller allows it, he'll stick to what is in the memos...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jun 2017

And I think we've already heard the most interesting parts of that. Otherwise he will defer to most questions due to the ongoing investigations.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
30. The testimony which will be given on Wed & Thur is NOT for our fucking Entertainment
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jun 2017

The purpose is to
1. have multiple sources go on the record under oath and provide evidence of actions by *45 which are sufficient to use as a basis for proceeding with the drafting of impeachment docs

2. Provide 'cover' for those KGOP who want to jump off the TrumpExpress...

3. Send a wake-up call to those KGOP who have been made aware that they are accomplices after the fact ....
because $$ they accepted from donors they believed to be legit
turns out to be dirty $$ .....

And to let them know that
Further support of compromised administration after Thursday's testimony will be indicative of intentional complicity.......,

This is not the season finale of some contrived faux reality show ....

It is the first actual step on the long legal road to ousting the insurgents who have infiltrated and taken control of our entire governing apparatus ...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
32. I agree with most of what you said...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:15 PM
Jun 2017

But the day Bill Clinton was "acquitted" in the Senate I smoked a big cigar, ate some pizza, and washed it down with beer.


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. Entertainment and Indictment are NOT mutually exclusive. And, mean indictment in the
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jun 2017

general sense - know he can't be

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
58. Thanks for this! Wednesday is bigger, though.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:46 AM
Jun 2017

Just a persistent feeling I've had.
BIG DEAL IMPORTANT STUFF

& NOT entertainment.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
38. I don't know about "bitterly disappointed"
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jun 2017

But yeah, the whole thing is being hyped like Geraldo opening Al Capone's vault; it can't help but fail to live up to the hype.

I think, though, that there will be a further unraveling of some threads that are already loose. Dismantling the whole sweater will take time, but this will be another step in that direction.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
40. PREDICTIONS
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:24 PM
Jun 2017

I know, you are right Yavin. I have already set myself up for disappointment.

Prediction: Yes, Comey will say he asked him to stop investigation. BUT, he will add that
he didn't think Trump knew it wasn't kosher

LeftInTX

(25,386 posts)
57. I'm predicting the same thing...
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:45 AM
Jun 2017

I predicting he'll say at the most: Trump used poor judgement, but did nothing 'intentionally' illegal because he was "new to the job" or something like that....

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
41. That's the logical perspective
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jun 2017

Other than bitterly disappointed. Both sides will spin and spotlight, claiming victory.

Overall I don't think much will change, if anything. DLT (Donald Lies & Tweets) is a life long lowlife cheater who has perfected how to get away with it.

stewrat

(50 posts)
42. dont be so pessimistic..
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:08 PM
Jun 2017

One detail that gets overlooked a lot is that Trump cleared the room before he asked Comey to go easy on Flynn. I think this shows an intent to keep the conversation secret which would reflect his state of mind If they talked about a bunch of other things, it may be ok for Trump. But if that was the main topic of conversation, it won't look good for Trump.

Comey is definite showboater and likes to make a splash but he is credible. Reports I've seen says he will confirm the info in his memo. That's big. If he testifies that he felt Trump was pressuring him, thats huge. In past testimony to congress he's dropped some big news like the existing Russia investigation and the confrontation with Gonzales & Card. Might he have something more to share? He might.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
45. I only expect him to confirm what we already know.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jun 2017

But it will still be good for him to have a national platform to publicly convict the Traitor in Chief.

Quixote1818

(28,947 posts)
46. I think the spectacle of it will be damaging
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:44 PM
Jun 2017

No, I don't expect it to be the beginning of the end of Trump but millions will tune in and hear Comey paint a picture of Trump that won't be pretty. It probably won't break the camels back but it will probably leave a mark. The key is how convincing and honest Comey comes across and I think he will come across as very sincere.

BumRushDaShow

(129,133 posts)
47. When you have the media making a ratings-hunting production out of the upcoming testimony
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jun 2017

including "countdown clocks" and whatnot (where even here in Philly, the local CBS-news radio station is supposed to carry it "live&quot , then it will most likely be quite anti-climatic.

The meat of what he knows can't be revealed in a public session so what he might say would probably be on the order of what someone like the amazing Clint Watts has remarked about, but probably no more than that.

However, in the alpha male power play world, he has been publicly "dissed" multiple times by Drumpf at this point, but he's not a childish reactionary like Drumpf. He'll get his revenge down the road.

I fully expect ALL of the GOP members to deflect and start talking about "leaks" and "unmaskings" and "Susan Rice" and "Obama" and other ancillary stuff.

This whole thing is going to be a long slog because there are multiple, intertwined moving parts involving many people, a significant amount of money, and various favors promised to and from these people.

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
48. Knowing the congressional leadership is meeting with chump this week
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:59 PM
Jun 2017

They are planning a strategy to keep Democrats from asking pertinent questions. I see the gish gallop being heavily used.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
49. Knew the moment it was announced that Trump wasn't seeking executive privilege
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 09:29 PM
Jun 2017

that the administration doesn't fear what Comey will say.

Trump is the proverbial goose that lays the golden egg in that he'll sign just about anything put before him by Republicans. They'll make sure he stays.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
52. I won't be disappointed. Expecting nothing. Will try to follow but glad I'm working and can't
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:52 PM
Jun 2017

really. Sad to say my attitude is such , I wish I could be more hopeful just not

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
54. CNN has a count down clock now
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:06 AM
Jun 2017

There's no way they can fulfill their own hype.

If Comey floated in on electric clouds, wizard robe fluttering behind, and Trump was attached to a glowing mithril chain like a hideous, unfaithful homunculus, it would be a let down at this point.

dchill

(38,505 posts)
55. All he has to do is confirm what we already know...
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:28 AM
Jun 2017

That Trumpsky wanted him to push back against the Flynn/Russia investigation - to "let it go". Instant obstruction of justice.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
56. My expectation is that it will trigger an avalanche of idiotic tweets from Trump
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:31 AM
Jun 2017

so far we are on schedule.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
61. I'm not expecting any smoking guns...
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:07 AM
Jun 2017

Comey has to cover his first testimony where he claimed no undue influence.

This will be more along the lines of 'No one particular incident but the accumulation of them has made me reconsider'

That and lots of 'I can't speak to that since the matter is still under investigation'.

nini

(16,672 posts)
62. Considering all the best stuff is classsifed
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:10 AM
Jun 2017

It will only contradict some of the stuff the trumpster has been lying about. Which will be enough for me. I dont expect mire because of the classified aspect.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
66. Prediction: Comey's testimony won't live up to expectations.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 04:31 AM
Jun 2017

Been thinking about it, and it brings me NO joy in saying that I agree with you OP

**Dear GOD, PLEASE make me wrong about Comey's testimony on Thursday.**

kcr

(15,317 posts)
67. Anyone who expects Trump will be immediately frogmarched out of the WH will be disappointed
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 07:17 AM
Jun 2017

As awesome as that would be. But I don't think that's most people, even on DU. Your prediction is the opposite extreme and I don't see that happening either.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
68. Depends how n expectations, I think.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 07:24 AM
Jun 2017

If the famous memo says what it is reported to have said, Comey just has to confirm what it says.

I understand the apprehension, but I think his testimony will be damaging to Trump.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
69. Perhaps, however,
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 07:43 AM
Jun 2017

I have no idea what you're referring to as far as expectations. I'm thinking Comey has got to be pretty pissed that degenerate donnie and his minions seem to have made the calculation that trashing Comey's reputation is their only way to save donnie. All I hear is how Comey really protects his veneer of integrity above all else so I can't see him allowing donnie to lie about him and turn his 40 year career in law enforcement into garbage. I don't think he'll talk about the russia investigation but I full expect him to spill on his private conversations with donnie which is really enough. Just the hint of obstruction of justice will be all it takes to get the press off to the races.

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
70. I think that most people here on DU are looking for a Perry Mason moment
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jun 2017

They expect Comey to bury the president with impeachment hearings starting up right away.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
71. They have more of a chance
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jun 2017

getting that from Mike Rogers tomorrow. Although perhaps Comey has something up his sleeve. I'm just not expecting anything like that from him.

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