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If air traffic control is privatized, will the controllers make more than $12/hr? (Original Post) raccoon Jun 2017 OP
I live near an International Airport... FarPoint Jun 2017 #1
you can be sure the CEO KT2000 Jun 2017 #2
Afraid to say, but our airlines will be shutdown beachbum bob Jun 2017 #3
Sure, they'll work online from a call center, I mean, control center in India NightWatcher Jun 2017 #4
Jeez... RobinA Jun 2017 #15
don't know what you guys are afraid of. onethatcares Jun 2017 #5
Please tell me this is a joke, that someone with that kind of firepower and Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #7
no, no joke onethatcares Jun 2017 #8
The goal is get as many of us killed and dead as possible. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #6
About 260 rupees an hour would be my guess Brother Buzz Jun 2017 #9
He has found yet another way to screw over his rural base. Tanuki Jun 2017 #10
Thanks for sharing that. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #11
As I recall, didn't wonderful Reagan fire all air traffic controllers due to their union? BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #12
These guys are really pros. I do NOT want them replaced by the lowest bidder... pangaia Jun 2017 #13
They won't be paid much Bettie Jun 2017 #14

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
1. I live near an International Airport...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jun 2017

Airport is 5 miles away....I believe I will be in danger if this unbroken job change occurs.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. Sure, they'll work online from a call center, I mean, control center in India
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:47 PM
Jun 2017

Don't worry about just flying, hope that nothing falls on your house while you sleep.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
15. Jeez...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:41 PM
Jun 2017

I never even thought of that. I was imagining minimum wage employees with two hours of training being told they have to pull a double...

onethatcares

(16,173 posts)
5. don't know what you guys are afraid of.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:49 PM
Jun 2017

Hell, here in sunny, gunny Floriduh, our Highway Patrol members start at 30K a year and they carry guns and bigger guns. It's not like the guys sitting in the tower pulling a double shift and drinking coffee is going to miss anything in the friendly skies.

Benefits are so over rated, ya know!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
7. Please tell me this is a joke, that someone with that kind of firepower and
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jun 2017

life and death power of you starts out at at least three times that, please.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
6. The goal is get as many of us killed and dead as possible.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:56 PM
Jun 2017

The more of us there are, the more votes the Democrats get.

Now rich people travel by air a lot so after a few private jets crash from $7 an hour air traffic controllers doing the job as well as you can expect someone making that much to do, pressure will be applied.

Anything that touches rich people will be restored once the rich start to suffer.

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
10. He has found yet another way to screw over his rural base.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jun 2017
http://www.agprofessional.com/news/industry/rural-and-agricultural-groups-urge-congress-oppose-privatization-air-traffic-control

"Rural communities, agriculture and small businesses stand to lose the most under a privatized system, where there would be no Congressional oversight to ensure that all stakeholders and communities have access to air transportation. For example, there are over 5,000 airports across the United States, over 3,300 of which are public-use airports. Yet, there is only commercial service at 509 airports, and airline capacity is dwindling – by about 20 percent in recent years in particular. That means that for the majority of our communities around the country, small airports and general aviation are a literal lifeline to local communities, industries and businesses.

These airport and businesses support local economies and agriculture, connect businesses with far-off plants and customers, and facilitate access to many services, including medical care, disaster relief, organ and blood transport, law enforcement, search-and-rescue, and fire-fighting. They help our businesses stay connected, repair power lines, help farms to survey and protect their crops and allow companies to reach plants in remote areas of the country, among many other uses. In fact, each year, the agricultural aviation industry treats 71 million acres of cropland, out of the 408 million acres of cropland in the United States.

Yet, under a privatized system, a private board dominated by the largest commercial operators would undoubtedly direct resources and investments to the largest hub airports and urban areas where these investments would be most likely to benefit their bottom line. They could also shape and influence the system in many other ways to their benefit, including by leveraging many new fees and taxes, reducing access to airports for lower cost competitors and impeding access to particular airports. It is also unclear how important programs such as the Airport Improvement Program (AIP) would fare, which provide long-term funding in the form of federal grants to both large and small airports around the country, which are a lifeline to local communities and economies.

Agriculture, small businesses and rural communities are the backbone of our nation, and we need to protect our public infrastructure which ensures access to air transportation for communities of all sizes. Please say no to a privatized air traffic control system.

Sincerely,

Agriculture Retailers Association
Alliance for Aviation Across America
Crop Life America
League of Rural Voters
National Agricultural Aviation Association
National Council of Agricultural Employers
National Farmers Union
National Grange of the Patrons of Husbandry
National Women in Agriculture Association
USA Rice Federation"


BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
12. As I recall, didn't wonderful Reagan fire all air traffic controllers due to their union?
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:13 PM
Jun 2017

They were the only union that supported him and that's how they were repaid. Basically he killed the rights of unions and things have been worse for most workers/employees since then. A lot has changed (mostly for the bad) due to and since he was the president. He started a lot of which is now "the norm" for the Repub party. Bad, bad president.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. These guys are really pros. I do NOT want them replaced by the lowest bidder...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:26 PM
Jun 2017

Just for a little light hearted brilliance...

The "famous" Kennedy Steve Abraham.... GROUND controller at JFK in this clip...guy is a genius.. and a great comedian . I think maybe he recently retired..?




kennedy Steve again.. serious complicated situations here...and he's got it all in his head...





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