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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe face of Reality Leigh Winner, NSA whistle-blower/leaker.
In case anyone's interested.
She's so young -- and she's just changed the course of her life. She now faces 10 years in Federal prison. I hope she'll feel it was worth it, in the end.
Her last Facebook post says: "You are what you love, not who loves you.
Interestingly, she predicted DT's win before the election. I wonder if that was based on other things she was seeing.
http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/reality-leigh-winner-leak-classified-information-nsa-top-secret-fbi/
A 25-year-old federal contract worker from Augusta, Georgia has been charged by the Department of Justice for taking Top Secret materials from her workplace and mailing them to a news outlet.
Reality Leigh Winner was arrested by the F.B.I. on June 3 and appeared in federal court in Augusta on June 5. She was charged with gathering, transmitting or losing defense information that could have been damaging to the U.S. Its alleged that she took a Top Secret document, copied it and mailed it to a news organization, believed to be The Intercept, NBC News reported.
The Intercept had published an intelligence document on May 5 thats in line with whats said in a criminal complaint. The report described details about Russian efforts to hack voting systems in the U.S. about one week before the 2016 presidential election. The document said that it raises the possibility that Russian hacking may have breached at least some elements of the voting system, with disconcertingly uncertain results.
SNIP
Prior to working for Pluribus, Winner was an active duty member of the U.S. Air Force. She was in the Air Force as a linguist, and speaks Pashto, Farsi and Dari, her mother told The Guardians Jon Swaine.
Notably, Winner didnt hide her stance on politics. Just one day before the 2016 presidential election, she made a post to Facebook saying on a positive note, This Tuesday when we become the United States of the Russian Federation, Olympic lifting will be the national sport.
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pnwmom
(108,980 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)DBoon
(22,372 posts)and independent thinking
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,359 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)house or senate.
I am sure they will destroy her for it.
benfranklin1776
(6,448 posts)Providing the American people the truth they need to hear to wake them up before their democracy is irrevocably lost.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)But I can't help but feel it is an act of patriotism.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)barbtries
(28,799 posts)they're gonna use her, abuse her, and probably keep her in prison for years while donald trump who leaked sensitive intelligence to a hostile nation, continues to be the president. sigh.
Squinch
(50,956 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They caught her because the Intercept showed them a copy of the physical printout showing the crease/fold.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)But, she did take the risk.
Still, she probably expected them to do a better job of protecting their source.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Too bad she didn't send it to the NY Times or the Washington Post.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)She should've sent this to the NY Times or WAPO. They have experience and could've protected her. She's a patriot and a whistleblower in my book.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Unfortunate choice for her.
Still, she didn't exactly hide. I think she expected this and felt it worth it.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)onit2day
(1,201 posts)YCHDT
(962 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)and she had a record of email contact with the news organization.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)She leaked to the wrong media outlet.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,013 posts)teach1st
(5,935 posts)barbtries
(28,799 posts)dang i thought we had a philosophy of innocent until proven guilty??
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YCHDT
(962 posts)... rational and thinks there has to be something done.
Praying for the best for her
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,247 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)She is a heroine!
It's sickening that the true criminals will not have to pay for their crimes but this whistleblower must fight to stay out of prison for exposing a crime that would most likely have stayed hidden for a long time.
Elections are coming and this info is pertinent and important.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)My best to her.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)She may have violated the law, but that doesn't mean she committed a crime!
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)couldn't achieve that...Whom did she know?
Intel has been burned thrice by these privileged children.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Was probably in military intelligence. Not that remarkable.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Pretty impressive.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)They're not "privileged children". The question is what's in your daughters background that prevents her from getting a clearance.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Just checking.
I mean I do, and I support information on what our government is doing being available to the public. But I felt that way before Trump was President as well.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I, for instance, always saw Edward Snowden as more of a "civilly disobedient" person than an actual criminal, and it would be nice if he could ever come home again.
vi5
(13,305 posts)That's my point. I think whistleblowing and bringing government activities done in our name and with our tax dollars to light is a good thing. I was fine when Snowden did it and I'm DEFINITELY fine with this woman doing it. But the hypocrisy on this page is glaring and sad.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It could also be predicated on context, detail, difference, agenda, etc. rather than the simplistic "what day it is".
I do however, understand the desire to consciously ignore it as such though... as doing so would both trivialize and deny your narrative.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Looking for leakers? Finally found one and she sends it to Intercept? Not buying it.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Most plausible to me.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)still_one
(92,242 posts)to delay the release of this information until more data was revealed, but regardless, this is a patriot in my book
orleans
(34,061 posts)they sound like a bunch of trump right wing freaks
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)the same judge (wishful thinking) she'll see.
I feel bad for her, but I appreciate what she did. Still, there is one question: did her leaking this to the press interfere with nailing the damn bastards in any way? I have my doubts, but I wonder if that is an issue.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)of info important to *protecting* this country....
orangecrush
(19,575 posts)Duty.
Honor.
Country.
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)onit2day
(1,201 posts)dalton99a
(81,526 posts)judesedit
(4,439 posts)Check out blackboxvoting.org for truth
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Sorry, but she gets a from me.
Not many good reasons for information like that to be held from the American public.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)Reality Winter:
There is nothing that can fix the hole in my heart that you left behind. I still don't know who I am without you here or how to keep moving forward without the one person who believed unconditionally in everything I want to do in life. Old habits die hard, I still find myself making time to call you in the evenings or jotting down notes or stories to tell you next time we speak. Somehow, though, I feel like you are a little closer, here, among the pyramids you used to endlessly tell us about, and always hoped to see. It's like I have a little piece of you here with me. I miss you, Dad. You would have loved to be here, though I'm sure you would have been bitching about the hot weather every minute.
Freeper response:
Michelle Engel I bet dad is glad he's dead considering his daughter is a traitor to our country.
To think, a blow job by your mom would have prevented you, I mean this.....
Bahaha
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1725100754183075&set=ecnf.100000495013413&type=3&theater
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)She's either a lot dumber than she looks, or Greenwald paid her way more than any other outlet was going to... I guess she tried calling RT or Sputnik first, but their phones were busy...
All this for one slide? Or did she hand over a bunch of Russian files for Greenwald to hoard and trickle out over the next 20 years?? This moron is literally going to jail for confirming a story reported last summer? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-is-investigating-foreign-hacks-of-state-election-systems/2016/08/29/6e758ff4-6e00-11e6-8365-b19e428a975e_story.html
If nothing else, I'm grateful that her actions officially debunk the flimsy excuses why Snowden supposedly wasn't able to grab any files about Russian wrongdoing... Just one more thing I was right about, but I'm not holding my breath for a medal.
As an aside, where the fuck are Snowden, Assange, Timm and the rest of the privacy bros decrying Trump's "War on Whistleblowers?"
orangecrush
(19,575 posts)To a document exposing Russian hacking, or the intelligence communities awareness of same.
That said, trusting anything Greenwald connected was stupid.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)orangecrush
(19,575 posts)It angers me
To see the older people in positions of power too cowardly to risk anything to stop this destruction of democracy, while a bright young woman with everything to lose lays it all down.
I am ashamed for them, because apparently they are incapable of shame.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)but she went about it all wrong... If she was going to throw her life and career and freedom away she should have done it for an irrefutable smoking gun instead of confirming what was already reported...
And if she *DID* send the Intercept an irrefutable smoking gun, she sent it to the wrong fucking people and should have known better, since Glenn will happily sit on any files which make his Russian partners too uncomfortable...
orangecrush
(19,575 posts)That Greenwald saw ratting her out as the best move for russia.
We are in agreement.
itcfish
(1,828 posts)She sent the documents to ratted on her. What happened to protect your sources?
jalan48
(13,871 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)about hacking. Too bad.
Appears the Russia hacking REALLY pissed her off.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)Its been an added little counterfeiting counter-measure manufacturers have been adding to some printers.