Joy Reid: Watch his face. He's coming unglued.

[kpete]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Aviation Pro]

1. Ok, fuckface....

...I remember along with the internet the day you asked a rally of your clown supporters to pledge allegiance to you using a modified Nazi salute.

Remember that, fucko? I do. We do, you lying fuck.

[SamKnause]

2. Fucking A !!!!

I was watching.

[BSdetect]

3. Does the reporter get something mixed up about Comey asking drumph under oath?

And shitto does not even pick up on that?

[DURHAM D]

5. Yes. The reporter had a McCain Moment. nt

[yardwork]

8. And trump didn't even notice and repeated it as fact!

"No, Comey did not ask me for a loyalty pledge..."

[Mme. Defarge]

4. The interviewer misspoke

when he asked, in effect, if Comey asked Trump for a pledge of loyalty.

Then Trump asks, nonsensically, something to the effect of "Who would ask fo a pledge of loyalty under oath?"

[LSFL]

6. See those little lines between his eyes?

In law enforcement you are taught to look for them. When they deepen it is a strong indicator of prevarication.
Trump lies constantly.

[Ilsa]

7. I was watching Comey's micro expressions yesterday.

Several times he was suppressing a smile that meant, "If that happens, it's game over for Trump." Obviously he couldn't smile, but you could see his eyes relax just a millimeter.

[politicat]

19. That one's not great.

I have that line. I have had it since infancy (you can see it in my very first picture.) It has far more to do with my badly unbalanced eyes (one is very myopic, one was extremely far-sighted, and both were untreated until I was 11) and high sensitivity to sunlight (blue-eyed, red-haired, grew up in a desert.) It was my first wrinkle. My spouse calls it my "I want" line, because when I get the bit in my teeth, it shows.

I grew up with two personality disordered people who are perpetual gaslighters. I developed radical honesty as a self-defense mechanism. And I'm a scientist. Lying is bad for the data.

Those police urban legends do a lot of damage, because there's no science behind their supposed lie detection (they are usually random, and may be extactly opposite) and yet they convince cops that they're right, which leads to over-confidence in their theories and makes for bad investigations. Which lead to wrongful convictions and bias and violence.

If we had reliable lie detection, it wouldn't be secret. It couldn't be kept proprietary or confidential, because actual behaviorists would have tested it and published about it, and psychologists would be using it, and we would teach it in marriage counseling. And if we think about it, it's obvious that we haven't come up with it, because if we had, we'd have better defenses against deception.

Basically, if a cop says "this is an indicator," ask them for peer review and citations. And realize that cop has bought into his profession's version of homeopathy.

[LSFL]

24. thank you for the education politicat

I just always assumed this was true. I am never adverse to ditching bad info. Besides, one can always detect when trump is lying as it occurs whenever he speaks.
I shall go forth and spread this pseudoscientific myth no more.

And THAT my friends is the difference between libs and cons. We can learn.

[marylandblue]

27. What does work in lie detection is looking for inconsistency

Lying is complicated so liars tend to be inconsistent. First they say one thing, then another. It's not perfect, because people do make mistakes, get nervous etc. but if someone can't get their story straight, then they could be lying. That's why Trump sounds like a liar if you listen long enough. For example, he said today that he didn't ask for loyalty, then he said it would have been okay if he had asked for it. Why say both of those? Either you said it or you didn't. If you didn't say it, why say it's okay if you did? It would only make sense if he did say it, but he wanted to fallback to "it's okay anyway" in case someone challenges the first lie.

[politicat]

28. YES! There's a term from literature: unreliable narrators.

That's how you catch a liar. One of the best training tools for learning to spot lies is fiction that features an unreliable narrator, because fiction limits extraneous details, while still drawing a narrative. When one hears a story from a person that one wouldn't believe in an airport mystery... there's a good chance it's an unreliable story. My best (neuropsych and clinical psych) students are the ones who read a lot of genre fiction.

Of course, there's still perspective. My perspective is not and cannot be someone else's. We can speak a common language, have common experiences, and still perceive the world in fundamentally different ways. We're all the heroes of our own narratives, and (usually unconsciously) try to present ourselves in our best lights. Which is not really a big deal, unless that need for the light overrides everything else.

One of the reasons the Mango Mendacity's lies are so blatant is he either doesn't bother or cannot remember what he's said. My bet is it started with the first, and has evolved into the second.

[nadine_mn]

33. It's why you ask someone to tell the story in different order

People usually rehearse a story from point A-B-C-D so if you ask them to take you in reverse or from the middle, it confuses them...they have to rethink the story again.

[tblue37]

31. Thank you for saving me from having to post a similar rant! nt

[politicat]

34. Happy to! There's SO much pseudoscience in policing.

And it's SO expensive. Cop shops get suckered into spending tens and hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars for Voice Stress Analyzers (less reliable than flipping a coin) or training sessions or dowsing rods. So much fraud and waste, and they get it because scared people will do anything to feel a little less scared.

When really, all they need to do is go talk to their local land-grant university. We squints really do have tools that will make them better cops, and we tend to work cheap as long as we get academic rights.

[Achilleaze]

38. + 1

[GreenEyedLefty]

25. I watched his face with the sound off and he was definitely tense and defensive.

We all know lying comes as naturally to him as breathing, so that isn't a big surprise.

[calimary]

37. Welcome to DU, LSFL!

Interesting point! Are those the vertical "frown lines" that seem to grow deeper and longer depending on what he says?

Actually pretty creepy.

[yardwork]

9. "I hardly know the man...." who was director of the FBI and was investigating my administration.

What a bizarre thing to say.

[TexasBushwhacker]

16. And asking others to leave the room

So that he was alone with Comey. Why would he do that?

[WinkyDink]

21. Maybe Trump thought the question was about sex? ;-)

[Madam45for2923]

23. Donald has used that line/defense his whole life: I don't know the person.

Remember he did not know Felix Sater and more recently he did not know Carter Page.

[tblue37]

32. And he bounces between being a good friend of Putin and a perfect stranger. nt

[RhodeIslandOne]

10. THAT is a used car salesman

In case you needed a primer on how they really look.

[bresue]

11. CNN was not even allowed to sit in the press section...but were seated to the

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left and back of audience as if they were being punished per Wolf Blitzer and Acosta.

[janx]

14. Both Blitzer and Acosta said that?

Today?

[bresue]

15. yes...it was the 2nd hour

I switched from Greta to Blitzer.

[janx]

17. Thanks. n/t

[calimary]

29. I do that on a regular basis, myself!

Don't watch much Greta, I must say. She doesn't belong on MSNBC. I don't care what their argument is.

[pnwmom]

12. Reporter to DT: "Did he ask for a pledge of loyalty from you?"

Boy, did he reporter screw up that question!

[canetoad]

13. "I hardly know the man"

[calimary]

30. Well, oddly, I'd expect anyone the Mafia Don doesn't know would be EXACTLY

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the person from whom the Don would want to exact a promise of loyalty. Of those people he knows well he presumably wouldn't have to make such a demand.

[unblock]

35. Good point!

[L. Coyote]

18. VIDEO: Trump Holds Press Conference

[GoCubsGo]

20. OMG! He has no neck!

Just a blob of a head on a torso.

I can't stand the sound of his voice, so I watched with the sound off. Half the time, he looks like he's constipated, and is sitting on the toilet, straining to take a dump.

[spanone]

22. i'm not sure he ever was glued...

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. That's not a face I want to look at.

At all. Ever.

[Luciferous]

36. He looks like an Oompa Loompa...

[no_hypocrisy]

39. Would you buy a used car from this man . . . . . . ?