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(30,761 posts)trueblue2007
(17,238 posts)Canoe52
(2,949 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Why was Obama not in the Oval Office during 9/11? Why wasn't he there when we invaded Iraq twice? Why is he not there right now?
MAGA man should not be allowed to vote. Period! I don't care what anyone else says. If you are that incredibly stupid when it comes to government, then you should not get to vote.
Leith
(7,813 posts)Why was Obama so slow with the federal response?
certainot
(9,090 posts)fox is talk radio's stupid little bro and until liberals figure that out we're fucked, attacking symptoms like fox
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)But yes talk radio is important
How would you measure the relative roles of radio and Fox news?
certainot
(9,090 posts)- talk radio is unique - it is the only major medium with NO poltical challenge from the other side of the spectrum
- fox cannot create like tr - people are monitoring it, there is one basic point of dissemination, with a handful of people looking into cameras and trying to look certain when they lie
- it cannot do the unchallenged repetition needed for creating big lies - a few hundred liars on 1000 radio stations all telling the same lies with their own flavor is a monstrous buzz
- there are free easy political alts to fox just a click away
- there are no free easy alts for politics on the radio in most parts of the US - esp those 40 states with 80 senators
- talk radio stations can be coordinated locally- they can spread the exact same national bullshit and trump excuses, swiftboating of trump critics, keeping blue dogs and wayward repubs in line, or they can do local propaganda coordinated for attacking ossoff in GA, or fighting local legalization or environmental legislation, or sell another wall mart or publicly funded stadium for billionaires to profit from, for eg.
- there's no monitoring or study of rw radio - it's basically invisible to those it attacks and has been attacking for 30 years
- and that's the biggest political mistake in history
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)What can you and I do?
certainot
(9,090 posts)the dem party but particularly the progressive groups have to do something. i can't do it.
Poll Polling rarely distinguishes talk radio from other media. Polling is an easy way to measure its effects. This should be the bare minimum for analysts trying to understand why US democracy has become so corrupt, dysfunctional, and hostage to an alternate reality.
Monitor This is another minimum for the Democratic Party if it wants to stop playing catchup. A software combination should be developed to automatically record and transcribe major talkers on the national and state level so they can be searched. Patterns of repetition of distortions, exaggerations, and lies will help measure talk radios impact. Democratic candidates need to know when and who those stations attack before they start showing up in the newspapers as letters to the editor or in think tank-written op eds and papers. The material can be used for alerting and correcting media, in advertising campaigns, and in debates. Public access to such material will inhibit politicians and media from repeating the lies and distortions.
Credit the messengers One major reason talk radio is so effective is that it is ignored and unchallenged. Democrats need to put a RUSH tattoo on Trumps forehead and that of every Republican politician and media hack who repeats the same talking points. Democrats can win merely by responding to lies with a preface like Thats what Limbaugh says, but...
Boycott While Stoprush and Flushrush werent really boycotts they had that effect. That whole effort and boycotts needs to extend to all businesses that advertise on any rw radio station. While it will hurt liberal radio the rtadio is about 95% 5%. When the monopoly is broken stations will open up for liberal talkers. It's easy and fun to listen to the local stations live or online and get some phone numbers and better yet emails addresses from their web sites. emails may be more likely to get to the boss and linger. And thank them for trump, russian stooges, global warming, loss of health care for your family, loss of net neutrality, and so on.
Protest the radio stations, but maybe better than that:
88 universities that help Republicans deny global warming and minimize protests
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Doodley
(9,124 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)Doodley
(9,124 posts)luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)checking and cause the victims of their rumors great headaches and inconvenience and sometimes loss of careers ..yeah it's fair.
Doodley
(9,124 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Doodley
(9,124 posts)susanna
(5,231 posts)is nearly lost in this country. Most everyone thinks they are a super genius.
What have we become?!
on edit: I over-generalized because I say "I don't know" all the time
sammythecat
(3,568 posts)I see this all the time and it's infuriating. I'd guess men are the worst offenders, like admitting they don't know is some kind of weakness or something. It also seems, as I think of some I know, they're often boring, uninteresting, and pretty much incurious. People with a good measure of curiosity have more answers, and if they don't have the answer they'll look for it.
susanna
(5,231 posts)Some of them do seem to have very low levels of intellectual curiosity. Since that is foreign to me ("I'm the original 'but why?' kid), I really have a hard time empathizing.
I have learned a ton of useless information over the years, usually because someone asked me a question I did not know. Then I had find the answer because I hate not knowing things.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)Doodley
(9,124 posts)perhaps he can wake up to the truth and realize he has been manipulated by misinformers.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)9/11 is spreading fake news.
Doodley
(9,124 posts)it will be a sharp learning experience for him.
tblue37
(65,487 posts)Squinch
(51,004 posts)that he is smarter than all those "libtards" who don't even know that 9/11 was Obama's fault.
He will learn nothing.
Takket
(21,625 posts)Doodley
(9,124 posts)Squinch
(51,004 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)...Republiconism Is a Bigger Disease Than The Black Plague.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)I actually heard that on the radio.
They are fucked up beyond repair.
tblue37
(65,487 posts)Frederick Douglass has done good work that is becoming more and more recognized.
Chipper Chat
(9,687 posts)Supporting England in the Falkland islands war. Even tho he was best buds with Juan peron! Inexcusable.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)Chipper Chat
(9,687 posts)Barge builders Wil rejoice.Also poles on the shore will be ressurected. Not to mention toll house renovations and mule popularity again
Squinch
(51,004 posts)those hoping for a return of the schooner whaling industry.
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)watched the whole video on youtube. daily show reporter goes around interviewing people at a trump rally and 1 woman actually said she wouldnt believe Obama was an actual citizen unless there was a witness that was in the room that came forward. He said "what about his mother?" to which she replied, "no, she's biased, she would lie". haha! he challenged her about trump and she said she believed his birth certificate b/c "he's been her forever". oh i laugh to keep from crying, a once proud country has degenerated into this.
Doodley
(9,124 posts)She demonstrates that nicely.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)krakfiend
(202 posts)I can't believe people like this exists.
I believe this part was around 3:25 minute mark
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)... I Don't Know What State That Was, But I guess It Doesn't Matter.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)trueblue2007
(17,238 posts)orleans
(34,073 posts)which, i guess, makes me kinda dumb too
DFW
(54,436 posts)Even on a map of Australia.
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)I don't care what you do to Obamacare, I got my insurance though the ACA.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)If Fox News or Trump said that, most of their fans would believe it.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)..The Most Trusted Name In News.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)...
catbyte
(34,447 posts)poor federal response to Hurricane Katrina.
You can't fix stupid.
Bluepinky
(2,276 posts)PatrickforO
(14,587 posts)What??? You mean the world isn't flat? You must be some kind of LIB-ER-AL. Let me get my gun!
TrishaJ
(798 posts)this is what this man's PARENTS did to America - produced an uneducated, illiterate DUFUS that has been exploited by the GOP and FOX News.
Different Drummer
(7,642 posts)"We're going to go to New York City to try to prevent Donald Trump's parents from creating him."
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)This is decades in the making. An educated and awake populace cannot be ruled like this. These people take willfully ignorant to another level, they are proud to be ignorant and proud to be ruled.
It's not funny in the least, these are the people who would gladly man the gas chambers should their leader tell them to. And make no mistake about it, there are those in the White House (Not just Bannon) who think a good purge of 50 million or so Americans would be great. If they could execute 50 million liberals, minorities, gays, and Muslims, they would, they do not think the opposition party are humans.
FlightRN
(194 posts)this is the man that votes not only in an ignorant and ill informed way, because he's clearly totally clueless. But more disturbing to me is his blatant racism. These loonies are cropping up so fast it is astonishingly scary.
I don't want to live in this new America that Trump created. He should have been arrested at his rallies for inciting violence. Look what MSM did by giving this man a platform, all for ratings.
BadGimp
(4,018 posts)ProfessorPlum
(11,276 posts)People in my own extended family. Incredible.