If we don't win in Georgia tonight ...

[broadcaster90210]

please save the analysis that "it was close" or "we really chipped away in a deep red district".

ALL that matters is winning. Period. It's like that in every, single election now.

[beachbum bob]

1. its about forcing conservativesto spend millions more to defend a seat they should have easily win

pressuring every race...winning would be awesome but another narrow loss is almost as good as win in this case. Set lets keep the pressure up right thru 2018

[lame54]

21. Perhaps you didn't read the OP

[customerserviceguy]

29. If there is a loss

then we pissed away a lot of dollars, too. Rethuglicans have money, Democratic voters don't, by and large. And we certainly can't spend all the millions per district that were used here.

We have to hope that Trump screws up enough to alienate the GOP. That may well not have happened tonight.

[Miles Archer]

2. It's one play in a much bigger game.

YES, it would be nice to score a "referendum on Trump."

NO, it's not the end. It's an ongoing fight, and fight we shall.

[blue neen]

3. Wrong.

.

[Demsrule86]

4. That is your opinion and most here don't share it...

coming close in a deep red state is a good thing for us , I hope we win, but I always knew it would be a heavy lift...oh and welcome to DU.

[LanternWaste]

5. That is indeed, the simplistic, narrow and short view many people accept

"ALL that matters is winning. Period..."

That is indeed, the simplistic, narrow and short perspective many people accept without inspection, reason or rationale; a view I've come to realize is as much a priority as is commercial branding and charisma in choice of candidate.

[LBM20]

16. It is VERY VERY hard to flip these kinds of deep red districts. The R just won it by 23 points.

[spanone]

6. Bwahahahahaaaa

[obnoxiousdrunk]

7. At ieast

you didn't say that Tom Perez should resign. Thanks ...

[PDittie]

20. Or blame the Russians

[demmiblue]

8. ...

[barbtries]

9. my faith is so lost

if Ossoff loses I will assume it was stolen by the republicans. that is my biggest fear.

[Calista241]

10. I don't see how you can say that.

Price won his seat by 20 points just a few months ago. TBH, were only in this race because we've spent 30 millions dollars. And I live in District 6.

[barbtries]

11. TBH?

i can say that because republicans are craven and without conscience or ethics. i'm not saying i know anything though. how can i?

[broadcaster90210]

12. While I respect the differing opinions ... these are different times. Only winning matters.

My first vote was for Johnson in '64. The Civil Rights era was hell. Vietnam was Hell. Hell ... there was just a lot of Hell for decades.

But underlying that Hell you knew that somewhere, maybe shoved deep, was some basic sanity. That no longer is true.

There was a time when "coming close" would put the breaks on extremism. No more. The Right Wing knows it has a limited shelf life if for no other reason then that they are all dying off. They also know that their time is NOW. There is NO incentive to moderate. In fact, the only incentive is to burn it all down as fast as they can. Either they get their Right Wing Extremism, or they take us with them.

You know what getting close is? Same thing it is in sports. It's a LOSS. That's it. This is America with the attention span of a gnat. There are no pyrrhic victories worth a tinker's damn. All that matters is who controls. Those 70k or so votes that got Hillary close last Nov? Means spit.

If we don't win does that mean we quit or give up? Well of course not. But there is no time anymore. We are at the end. We must win. Nothing else matters.

[LBM20]

14. Yes we need to win, but remember that these have been deep red seats and VERY tough to flip.

[LBM20]

13. No. NEARLY flipping a deep red district like this IS DAMN WELL A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT!

[malaise]

15. Way too simple

Sorry

[brettdale]

17. Is there a page to watch the results comes in

CNN???

[malaise]

18. Our experts will post that for us shortly

I think voting continues until 7.30pm

[Fla Dem]

36. Here

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/georgia-congressional-runoff-ossoff-handel

[cwydro]

35. Ditto. nt

[PDittie]

19. Spot on.

[TomSlick]

22. Winning this one deep red district isn't the last great hope.

I appreciate that everyday with Trump has been very painful - but - it's really wicked early yet for Trump to start causing the GOP to lose strong GOP districts. The GOP is having to spend A LOT of money and sweating what should be easy elections. The Dems getting unprecedented numbers in red districts suggests that 2018 will be a good year (if Trump lasts that long).

Keep your eyes focused on the long-term. Don't give up. Organize, speak out and VOTE.

[nkpolitics1212]

23. If Ossoff were to win tonight, he has to win a full 2 year term in 2018, another term in 2020 and

2022-assuming GA-6 does not get gerrymandered for Bob Barr-the lead Clintonimpeacher.

[alarimer]

24. It doesn't matter.

Nothing matters. Nothing we do can ever matters. No amount of protest, or activism, or anything will ever turn this country into anything other than a shithole. Because easily half or more of Americans are completely evil assholes.

I've stopped caring. Will not vote, will not lift a fucking finger for anything other than what's best for me.

[Blue_true]

25. Truly an awful viewpoint.

If you don't participate, republicans win. Lots of people in the Georgia 6th claimed to be worried about Trumpcare passing. I want Handel to get sworn in to vote for Trumpcare then defend her vote in 2018 after the damage. Also, Ossoff must move to the 6th to make that a non issue in 2018.

[Gravitycollapse]

26. A shitty, self-centered view point. Get a grip.

[redstateblues]

28. Can't say I blame you.

[SoCalMusicLover]

34. Agreed

Nothing ever changes for the better. I feel bad for those on the left who have the right ideals in mind, but half this country is too STUPID, BIGOTED, SELF-CENTERED, GREEDY, MORANIC to comprehend shit.

America as we once knew it is Dead. We're a pathetic country.

[alarimer]

37. I want all Republicans to get very ill and bankrupt themselves.

Before dying slowly and painfully. After all it is what they are guaranteeing what will happen to millions. So many of the shallow, empty headed fools I went to high school with are perfectly okay with it. And so, now, am I, at least when it comes to them.

[SoCalMusicLover]

43. United States My Ass

There needs to be 2 countries. One led by Democrats with Health Care, Abortion Rights, Gun Laws, Etc.

All the fucking hillbilly, ignorant fuckheads can live in the republican America, with all the benefits they "believe" that affords them.

[Jacquette]

41. I am trying so hard not to get to where you're at butit is

so hard. Just seeing only ONE of them..just one..arrested and charged or even openly brought in for questioning.

It's as if they are all bullet proof, they just go on and on. Kushner was trying to set up a back door communication set with Putin, Russia. His sister in law is selling citizenship to the highest bidder. And this fkr can't even get his top secret clearance pulled. They are doing everything in committees and closed sessions and private investigations as if WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW.

Day after day it's a litany of crime; you can't even fricken keep up. And it's...oh we got him now! This is it! Breaking news! The smoking gun! Then.. Nothing. I've done it all. Vote. Help get people to polls. March. Call my Senators and House rep. I'm about to tune out. Just live my life and hope for the best.

[get the red out]

27. Can't win in the south

Sickening

[Eko]

30. It aint the Death Star.

[Throck]

31. I just want to be alone right now

[EffieBlack]

32. Hear hear

This "yes, but we almost won and made them spend a lot of money" whistling in the dark is getting pretty old.

We need to start winning.

[Initech]

33. We've got to start fighting and fighting hard.

If they go low, we don't go high. We kick them in the ass.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

38. I wish him all the best, but...

When I heard on Bloomberg this morning that this was the most expensive House race ever, I just about drove into a tree.

$25 million dollars? For a race in whitey-white-white Suburban Atlanta?

[nini]

39. Sorry but that is the lesson

We are tightening the races in those spots we haven't won in decades. This is NOT going to happen overnight and the rubes down there haven't felt the pain of trump yet. They will and unfortunately we will too.

Relax and

[Yurovsky]

48. I don't think referring to them as "rubes" helps...

one of the more common complaints by swing voters about the Democratic Party is a coastal elitism they perceive, and they feel as though they are being patronized or condescended to. Doesn't make it true (like the screw job Trump & the GOP have in store for them), but it's their perception. We need to change that perception. A good first step would be talking to them as equals...

Hearts & minds people... we win that - with a little help from Trumps policy failures - and the tide will turn mightily.

[nini]

49. Im not talking about 'swing' voters specifically.

And i dont give a damn what the fox news brigade who deserve that label thinks.

I am tired of beating our heads against the wall with some of them. If they think i am condescending i guarantee you you it's not going to hurt them as bad as what their side is going to do with them. Then maybe they'll wake the hell up.

I am out of fucks to give about their feelings when 25 million people are on the verge of loding their health care.

[Yurovsky]

50. Oh I agree whole heartedly that many deserve worse...

But we still need to pick off 3% that are by and large unaffiliated but open to reason.

Even in places like suburban Atlanta they exist, and they are growing in number. I would just like to speed up the process, as I'm too damn old to wait for all the racist/misogynist/homophobic greedy assholes to die off...

[nini]

52. It's not an age thing

those types aren't going to die off as they are replaced with more of the same mindset.

The type you speak of do not exist in the deep red areas - which is exactly why we fight the battles in battleground areas..not crazy ass right wing strongholds.

I just saw an article on facebook where some lunatic saying liberals are with ISIS and that's the battle the righties are fighting for them. Those deep red people believe that stuff - we are satan loving, baby eating monsters in their eyes and the baby jeebus is on their side!!

I'm not saying we don't need that 3% or so.. but we certainly need to pick our battles in where we do that. Some areas are simply lost causes whether we like it or not.

[bdamomma]

40. crap

watching MSNBC 47.6 % for Jon, 52% for Handel.

again voters voting against their best interest. I don't like the colour red.

[bresue]

42. Don't perceive an election like a football game--win/loss....

This close of a win will make many Rub representatives and senators nervous in counties that are more blue! They may even start standing up to the red, red Rubs who want to roll back everything.

[redstateblues]

44. It wasn't that close. Hillary only lost by 1 point in GA6

[Jake Stern]

45. Said it before and will say it again

If the GOP lost an election in a navy blue district by only a few points when the last election was a double digit loss they'd be on teevee spinning it as a WIN for them.

They'd have Paul Ryan in front of the camera saying "This result shows that even in a Democrat district people are tired of Nancy Pelosi and the Far Left!"

Instead of letting them gloat in their win we should use every medium to rub it in their face that we wrecked their once safe lead.

[AJT]

46. It's time for all dems to leave red states and move to

where your values matter. Move to states where a majority of the population cares for each other. Let the nuts live in states that represent them. I live in Wisconsin and Ryan and Walker will win again. We have lost a war where we weren't prepared to stoop to their level to win. As soon as I can, I will move to where I will feel comfortable and where I don't cringe when I pay my state income tax. Someplace where the state governments doesn't endlessly preach about God and family while they screw people over. Sadly I think the federal government is lost to us and the only refuge will be the state where you live.

[Jake Stern]

47. Sure, come out to blue Denver

Hope you enjoy paying out the ass for even the shittiest apartment or be one of 30+ offers for a modest house in a so-so neighborhood. Wages are waaaaaay behind the cost of living unless you're tech or weed.

And nothing quite says "Colorado" like walking along the Cherry Creek Trail on a beautiful day only to have your pleasant walk rudely interrupted by some asshole bicyclist screaming "Get the fuck out of the way!"

I've checked out the Green Bay area. Like it. Down to Earth people, lots of jobs and affordable housing. I can put up with Walker and Ryan if I don't have to deal with nearly getting run down by some spandex wearing jerkoff on a two wheeler while walking home from my $10.50/hour job to my $998 1 bedroom apartment.