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angrychair

(8,733 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:40 PM Jun 2017

Do...Nothing

I said something to this effect not to long after the election. I'm going to be a little more specific and likely say some very hard truths that many here will not like to hear. For that I am truly sorry but until we face this truth we are living a lie. We have to face this truth square in the eye. Here we go..

Like it or not this is what Americans want and expect from their government. We are wrong. We are wrong on human rights. We are wrong on fair pay. We are wrong on healthcare. We are wrong on workplace safety. We are wrong on global warming. We are wrong on every major environmental issue of our time. All of the liberal/centrist/progressive agenda. WE ARE WRONG.

Why?

Because the American people said so. They voted in a majority of Republicans. They voted in Donald Trump. Democrats did not win. We lost. Doesn't matter why. Do not say it was "hacked by the Russians". Do not say it wasn't a fair election. Don't talk about gerrymandering. Don't talk about voter suppression. No. One. Cares. If they did than more people would be doing something about those things that prevent people from voting and actually do something to change it. They are not. Not enough people care so it must not matter. Do...Nothing.

No matter how much people care here on DU or in Democratic strongholds across the country, it is not enough. Enough people just don't give a shit. More and more Democrats are getting painted as "extremist" and "left wing loons" and so on. So it is past time for Democrats to just sit down and shut up. LET. IT. GO. Do...Nothing.

Stop ranting. Stop protesting. Just stop. the American people, by their failure to vote in your favor or to vote at all, do not give a shit what you have to say.

Democrats in Congress: STOP. Speak for or against NOTHING. Vote on NOTHING. Let the republicans meet in secret on their healthcare bill. What is in it is none of your business. They will tell us what they want to tell us and we should be happy for that as that is what the American people want. The majority of Americans, by voting or not voting, completely agree with the republican agenda. Stop standing in the way of the Will of the American People.

Stop pissing and moaning about "dark money" or "corporate welfare" the American people, by voting or not voting at all, said they were fine with it. Give the American people what they want. More dark money and corporate welfare. If enough people actually cared than things would change. No one cares so this is obviously what they want. Do...Nothing.

Stop pissing and moaning about healthcare. The American people do not care. If they cared than more would do something about it. But the majority of people, by voting or not voting at all, have clearly indicated that they completely agree with millions of people not having the ability to get healthcare. It is really that simple. Do...Nothing.

Stop trying to stop the republican agenda. Based on the majority of people voting or not voting at all, the majority of people not protesting. The majority of people not speaking out. The majority has clearly indicated that this is the America they want.


How do I know this?

Because we have hundreds of examples of what real protesting looks like, both in our history and throughout the world. We may have had hundreds of thousands of protesters at a protest but their are hundreds of millions of people in our nation. Many nations have nationwide strikes. Strikes that bring their whole nation to a stand still. Their have been sustained protest with hundreds of thousands of people for days, not just one day. As a shop steward, with literally their pay and benefits on the line, I cannot get more than 5-10 people to walk 100 feet outside their building, at lunch, to show their support for their OWN PAY AND BENEFITS. If they do not care, than who am I to stand in the way. I am only one person. As one person I can only do so much and if people cannot take even the smallest of efforts in their own interest than who am I stand in the way.

If people really do care than they should show it. Until then I am tired of talking until I cannot talk anymore. They don't care what I have to say.
I am tired of typing till my fingers hurt. They don't want to read it.

I'm tried of protesting human rights abuses in a group of a dozen people. No one cares.

So what do I do? Do....Nothing

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Do...Nothing (Original Post) angrychair Jun 2017 OP
More people Eko Jun 2017 #1
More people angrychair Jun 2017 #2
The ones who didnt care Eko Jun 2017 #3
Sorry if I'm not making myself clear angrychair Jun 2017 #4
Well, Eko Jun 2017 #9
I get that, I do. angrychair Jun 2017 #11
Technically, nonvoters are already 'doing nothing' leftstreet Jun 2017 #5
I would concede some angrychair Jun 2017 #7
I thought I had seen everything here. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #6
Why flawed angrychair Jun 2017 #8
I disagree with the poster, but I see his point. Blue_true Jun 2017 #10
Have to say, that's the way I feel today. There are just too many brainwashed people in this kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2017 #12

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
2. More people
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 08:46 PM
Jun 2017

You missed the part in which I said: "voted for republicans or didn't vote at all".

Truly, you are also missing the point of my OP.
People need to learn a lesson much like the people of Kansas are learning now "elections have consequences" failure to vote or voting for republicans is against your own best interest. At least right now, nothing you say or do is going to change any minds. You have to wait until they get to that point of realization on their own (aka "The Kansas Effect).

Eko

(7,342 posts)
3. The ones who didnt care
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:04 PM
Jun 2017

enough to vote didn't care about both Trump or Clinton. So putting them in the camp against just us is folly. Out of those that did care more voted for us. Still no.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
4. Sorry if I'm not making myself clear
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:32 PM
Jun 2017

I'm not saying that the people that voted cared about either Clinton or trump directly, that is actually my point. They do not care! By not voting they, indirectly, allowed him to win and agreed to his agenda.

Eko

(7,342 posts)
9. Well,
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:49 PM
Jun 2017

While trying to be polite, as you have been, I understand the feeling of abandonment, I understand the feeling of sticking your head in the sand and just giving up. But millions more did agree with us than not. Millions. I do know the secret to life, I learned it the hard way with my dad. The day you quit getting back up is the day you died. The rest you have after that are just going through the motions. Keep getting up buddy.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
11. I get that, I do.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:42 PM
Jun 2017

At a certain point you have to ask why.

I get we had millions of voters but where are they?

Where are these millions of voters when we need them most?

Where were these millions of voters when police were dragging handicap people out of mcTurtle's office?

If people actually cared then I need proof because i don't see it.

leftstreet

(36,112 posts)
5. Technically, nonvoters are already 'doing nothing'
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:38 PM
Jun 2017

So maybe they've already reached the point you're at?

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
7. I would concede some
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:47 PM
Jun 2017

But the majority just doesn't give two shits. As long as they have reality TV, porn and double stack hamburgers with extra bacon they don't think any further than their TV screen. Trump is just a reflection of the United States as a whole, as a country, we are a bunch of selfish, narcissistic assholes. That is not my personal opinion, that is how the world actually sees us.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. I thought I had seen everything here.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:43 PM
Jun 2017

This is one righteous call for inaction. Seriously flawed but I am seriously impressed.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
8. Why flawed
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:49 PM
Jun 2017

We don't always agree on approach but I like reading what you have to say...so why would you say that?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. I disagree with the poster, but I see his point.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jun 2017

During the Bush years, I would drive by this street just toward the end of rush hour when I was in the town on business, pretty much the same schedule. There would be this guy out protesting Bush rain or shine every time I was there, this solitary person. After Obama was elected, I never saw him back. I don't go to that area now, so I don't know whether he is back.

The guy didn't give up, he outlasted Bush, even after Bush won reelection. Sometime you may be gutted, but you have to keep fighting.

The OP seems to be saying, if I can quote how I read it. "They don't care, so why should I?"

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
12. Have to say, that's the way I feel today. There are just too many brainwashed people in this
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jun 2017

country, and racists and haters. Maybe the Dem Party simply cannot fight all this brainwashing and money that has gone on for years and years. Add to that the people who simply don't give a crap and won't bother voting or they just don't get it.

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