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Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 08:29 PM Jun 2017

Paul Ryan is Catholic is name only.


Only Protestants believe in salvation in faith alone. Catholics believe in faith demonstrated through works. So we must judge him by his works, which sums up the Republican position very well...


What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?

If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day,

and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?

So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Indeed someone may say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.

Global warming you say? A hoax says Ryan. What does Catholicism say about this?

It is a mortal sin against the Holy Spirit to have deliberate resistance to a known truth.

The Vatican is full of scientist and the Pope has spoken to this issue. Everyone knows it's real, but it hurts big oil and coal so Paul plays stupid and denies.

Finally, what about his glee at opressing the poor via his Randian philosophy?

There are particular mortal sins that are so evil that they are said to be sins that cry to heaven for vengeance, including oppression of the poor and defrauding workers of their just wages.

Paul Ryan is a shitty Catholic and if you adhere to the religion, must conclude his soul is in grave danger of hell.

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Paul Ryan is Catholic is name only. (Original Post) Drahthaardogs Jun 2017 OP
Well his hero, Ayn Rand, was an atheist, a godless anti-communist delisen Jun 2017 #1
I'm a Jew, and even I know this... Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #2
Deny him communion! Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #3
Agreed. Drahthaardogs Jun 2017 #4
His hero Ayn Rand said in 1999 safeinOhio Jun 2017 #5
"must conclude his soul is in grave danger of hell." Hayduke Bomgarte Jun 2017 #6
Paul Ryan is a hypocritical piece of shit. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #7
Plenty of right wing authoritarian Catholics. hunter Jun 2017 #8
It's one thing to be a right wing authoritarian Drahthaardogs Jun 2017 #11
Catholics gone bad. That's what we call 'em. hunter Jun 2017 #13
Pence isn't even nominally a Catholic. He was born one but left the church long ago. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #17
I'm not going to hold it against him. tazkcmo Jun 2017 #9
Speaking as one who was raised Catholic you are correct. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #10
If he tries to make all abortions illegal & fights LGBT equality, he is a Good Catholic. Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #12
i'm bettin his bishop is not real happy w him. mopinko Jun 2017 #14
Paul Ryan looks and acts like Satan. democratisphere Jun 2017 #15
A special type of monster.. Cha Jun 2017 #16
It's a General Trend Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #18

hunter

(38,317 posts)
8. Plenty of right wing authoritarian Catholics.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jun 2017

My parents used to live in a town that was full of them.

Fortunately I don't live in a place like that.

In another universe I can easily picture Ryan kissing Franco's fascist ass.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
11. It's one thing to be a right wing authoritarian
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 09:19 PM
Jun 2017

It's quite another to perpetuate laws that steal from the poor and give it to the rich.

This transcends authoritarian behavior exuded by many of the modern day Pharisees.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
13. Catholics gone bad. That's what we call 'em.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jun 2017

Pence is another.

"Steal from the poor and give it to the rich" is an authoritarian trait, they have very concrete opinions about who "deserves" to be poor, just as the Prosperity Theology Protestant Christians do.

They are the chosen ones, as demonstrated by their wealth an political power or their aspirations of such, no matter how unlikely that may be.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
12. If he tries to make all abortions illegal & fights LGBT equality, he is a Good Catholic.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 09:28 PM
Jun 2017

Those are Cannon or Church Law, as well as what is preached from the pulpit.

None of the GOP in Congress or the White House can be said to act in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ. They use religion to manipulate their base & to scare them into voting GOP. Are they Christian? Sure. There are tens of thousands of different Christian sects, often with differing or even mutually opposed beliefs. Do their actions match the words of Jesus or actively oppose the same, while they give lip service?

Christian is as Christian does, as they say.

mopinko

(70,120 posts)
14. i'm bettin his bishop is not real happy w him.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jun 2017

since the catholic church runs a lot of hospitals, i cant imagine he is in very good standing right now.
and since, if this comes to pass, the catholic hospitals will have to do a whole lot more charity care, i bet they are really, really unhappy w him.

i assume that, like cook county hospital here, the aca has been a real windfall to the catholic systems. for the first time in decades, cook county has more insured patients than uninsured.
they have invested heavily in preventive and primary care.

i'm thinkin seeing hospitals in the black makes them want the aca to stick.
prepare for the backlash lil paulie.

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