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Norbert

(6,040 posts)
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:49 AM Jun 2017

When did you first start to dislike tRump?

Mine is a very easy answer.

It was back in the early 1990s. I wasn't very fond of the syndicated TV show ET - Entertainment Tonight but watched it anyway because it was on after the local and national news. Anyhow this was a time when the marriage of the Donald and Ivana was falling apart because he was boinking and breaking in a new model in Marla Maples. I had barely known about tRump or at least wasn't paying much attention at the time.

But when the story broke of his infidelity it was on about every night on Entertainment Tonight. First Ivana saying how terrible tRump was for shacking up. The next night tRump blasting Ivana for being a terrible woman. This spat went on and on between the two for about 1-1/2 to 2 weeks between the two and Marla opening her mouth and joining in the fun.

I finally was fed up. This guy was not an entertainer like DiNiro, Oprah or Aerosmith, so why did we have to be privy to all the sorted details of their sinking marriage and him looking for a younger trophy wife. I asked my wife if we can turn on something else after the news other than ET. My wife was okay with it, in fact she only kept it on because she thought I liked it.

From that day forward we switched and haven't watched ET since. I remember back then thinking, I'll never have to hear about this clown ever again ... at least that's the way I thought it would go.

Anyone else?

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When did you first start to dislike tRump? (Original Post) Norbert Jun 2017 OP
In the 1980s, when I was living in NYC. stopbush Jun 2017 #1
Me too. He just never shut up about that damn skating rink... TreasonousBastard Jun 2017 #3
I'm a 56 year-old native New Yorker... ADX Jun 2017 #40
Eighties in NYC also. no_hypocrisy Jun 2017 #30
Same here. In fact, I don't know one New Yorker that doesn't think he is a smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #41
Me too, I worked in Manhattan and hated him then. n/t phylny Jun 2017 #33
I lived in N.Y. in the 60's and 70's and 80's and everyone thought at that time he was an asshole katmondoo Jun 2017 #46
Add my name to the list Runningdawg Jun 2017 #79
Add my name, too. DinahMoeHum Jun 2017 #83
I never thought much of him ribrepin Jun 2017 #2
Many years ago. madamesilverspurs Jun 2017 #4
I'm not defending Trump, especially on a personal level, but maybe... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #27
probably since the fight with rosie odonnell JI7 Jun 2017 #5
The fight with Rosie was ugly, personally bullying bresue Jun 2017 #38
The first I saw of him was a 60 Minutes segment back in the 80s, I believe. spiderpig Jun 2017 #6
A long time ago. Doreen Jun 2017 #7
when he bought Merv Griffen's KT2000 Jun 2017 #8
His birther shit in 2011. BlueStater Jun 2017 #9
During birther shit Wawannabe Jun 2017 #56
The elder Trump children are no different...... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2017 #10
Mid '80s when he ruined the USFL Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #11
1980, when he destroyed the Bonwit Teller 1929 Art Deco panels SeattleVet Jun 2017 #12
Me, too. Born in Manhattan, I grew up in north Jersey, riding the train in to the city mnhtnbb Jun 2017 #17
That was unforgivable! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #42
The day he mocked Serge Kovaleski (the disabled reporter). Buns_of_Fire Jun 2017 #13
My Mom watched all those tabloid tv shows too that Donnie frequented. She hated airmid Jun 2017 #14
Late 1970's and Early 80's B Stieg Jun 2017 #15
My sister did a children's gig once when Trump was to appear DFW Jun 2017 #16
i think it was the 80's bob villa still on this old house & had HIM on + his pansypoo53219 Jun 2017 #18
I used to just think of him as a rich stupid prick. IrishEyes Jun 2017 #19
When Spy Magazine started to go after him jmowreader Jun 2017 #20
1986 bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #21
I can't recall exactly, but it was sometime before "Trump: The Game" was sold. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #22
I read the Art of the Deal as a teenager and the other books of that ilk that came out in the 80s. GreenEyedLefty Jun 2017 #23
I guess the 1st time I saw his face on TV or in a magazine in the late 70s early 80s TexasProgresive Jun 2017 #24
Mine is personal RockaFowler Jun 2017 #25
So far back that I can't remember Miles Archer Jun 2017 #26
He always struck me as POS self promoter and con man underpants Jun 2017 #28
I never understood the "brand" thing either. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #43
I don't think I was aware of him until the 90's Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #29
never really liked him but really didn't pay any attention to him mnmoderatedem Jun 2017 #31
I can't recall ever liking him. CozyMystery Jun 2017 #32
Does Trump have one single likable characteristic? Is there any other creature as revolting? Doodley Jun 2017 #34
No and No. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #44
when i heard him referred to as The Donald and i saw his... samnsara Jun 2017 #35
I never gave a second of thought to him until he was on television. Vinca Jun 2017 #36
I did not think much of him treestar Jun 2017 #37
I don't recall ever having found him likeable. Orsino Jun 2017 #39
Heard of him same as you, the fights in Aspen over Marla Thirties Child Jun 2017 #45
At the first mention of his name madokie Jun 2017 #47
From the get-go I perceived him to be rude, crude, and lewd rock Jun 2017 #48
When he drove three of my Dad's friends into bankruptcy while he walked away with a pile of money. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #49
Growing up in NYC (Queens) in the 60s and 70s meow2u3 Jun 2017 #50
An unrepentant racist. Caught discriminating by the govt and not a single apology. KeepItReal Jun 2017 #51
I never liked 45. ananda Jun 2017 #52
I never paid much attention to him until he got going on the birther thing. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #53
Same here LeftInTX Jun 2017 #68
In the 1980s when he first started priding himself on being a greedy con man Snake Plissken Jun 2017 #54
Apprentice BS Wawannabe Jun 2017 #55
we should have a banner saying that bdamomma Jun 2017 #63
In the 80's. He was one of the "faces" of the wealth is a virtue attitude of the Reagan era . m-lekktor Jun 2017 #57
Never liked him or his anus mouth.. HipChick Jun 2017 #58
I am a NYer itcfish Jun 2017 #59
Yes, and even more so HockeyMom Jun 2017 #61
As soon as I got to know how he was! There was no "like" period for me. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #60
The same time as you. GoCubsGo Jun 2017 #62
The first time I heard/saw him speak. Mad-in-Mo Jun 2017 #64
Basically since the 1980's and every single reason stated in this thread... Pachamama Jun 2017 #65
Mid 1990s when I bumped into his repellant JCMach1 Jun 2017 #66
I remember back in the late 80s/early 90s when Trump's first divorce hit.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #67
I first noticed he was a jerk on the apprentice, but I really disliked him ecstatic Jun 2017 #69
1982 when Trump thought he was TrishaJ Jun 2017 #70
The very first time I saw his face and stupid hair do. 1980something. kydo Jun 2017 #71
Trumps lack of class after a real estate exchange with Merv Griffin. oasis Jun 2017 #72
When he was on his Birther campaign ConnorMarc Jun 2017 #73
Probably Can't Pinpoint An Exact Time ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #74
I disliked him from the first time I heard about him mvd Jun 2017 #75
He was never more than a tabloid to me. Solly Mack Jun 2017 #76
In the 80's the blow hard was always on TV, Historic NY Jun 2017 #77
First time I ever saw him like back in 70s I guess nt doc03 Jun 2017 #78
Sometime in the 90's Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #80
I graduated high school in 87, but knew of trump from the media all through high school. WyattKansas Jun 2017 #81
My first introduction was The Apprentice. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #82
I didn't know Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #84
 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
40. I'm a 56 year-old native New Yorker...
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:12 AM
Jun 2017

...and as far back as I can remember, we've always known him to be a scumbag con-man.

no_hypocrisy

(46,121 posts)
30. Eighties in NYC also.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:45 AM
Jun 2017

I hated him the first time New York Magazine ran its "Meet The Trumps" article like he was someone important when he wasn't.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
46. I lived in N.Y. in the 60's and 70's and 80's and everyone thought at that time he was an asshole
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:34 AM
Jun 2017

you are so right "stopbush"

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
83. Add my name, too.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jun 2017

I remember (and I still have issues) of SPY magazine ragging on him every chance they had way back then.

The owner/publisher, Graydon Carter, still rags Trump with Vanity Fair magazine.

madamesilverspurs

(15,805 posts)
4. Many years ago.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:13 AM
Jun 2017

He was whining to Congress that tribal casinos were "unfair" competition for his casinos. He was such a pile of pretentious privilege, totally disgusting. As far as I'm aware, he has never said or done anything to change that perception.


.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
27. I'm not defending Trump, especially on a personal level, but maybe...
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:39 AM
Jun 2017

... there were elements of truth to what he said? I'm referring to him mentioning the influx of mobsters in those casinos. On the other hand, that's something that probably happens in many casinos... like the ones that Trump owned!

I didn't see his testimony years ago, but I saw it later online after I spent the night at a Native American casino in the upper peninsula of Michigan. I stayed at the casino after the long drive into the area for a hiking/camping/fishing trip.

The parking spaces reserved for Native American managers were all empty. I ate in their buffet and there were lots of problems. I didn't even complain much, but I asked the payment clerk if they were short-handed that night or if the missing food options and slow service was pretty common. I wasn't angry when I asked about it and I even expressed sympathy for the situation. She acted personally insulted by it for whatever reason and I apologized and explained with a smile that it wasn't a big deal, and I certainly didn't fault her. I made the payment and noticed that she approached a short Italian-looking guy while pointing at me! I walked over to the casino area to try a slot machine with a complimentary card that I received at check-in. It didn't seem to work, so I then walked over to the casino customer service desk to inquire about it. She explained that something else needed done before it would work, and she started to do it, but then the short Italian-looking guy approached and yelled at her, "Hole punch! Hole punch!" He had a New York-ish accent. He then walked away. The young woman acted flabbergasted, but then she put a hole in the card (through the magnetic strip) and whispered to me that the card wouldn't work now! I couldn't believe the petty behavior! I looked over my shoulder and the Italian-looking guy was looking at me from a distance with a smirk on his face! It wasn't that big of a deal because the card had been complimentary with a small credit on it anyway. I decided to just go to my room and go to bed because I wanted to get up very early to start the camping trip anyway. When I returned home about a week later, I Googled Indian casinos and mobsters, and that's when I saw the old Trump testimony.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
5. probably since the fight with rosie odonnell
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:16 AM
Jun 2017

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but i never liked him or thought or knew much about him before that.

bresue

(1,007 posts)
38. The fight with Rosie was ugly, personally bullying
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 07:39 AM
Jun 2017

And I was proud of Rosie that she did not back down from his results! This was my first sour taste in my mouth for all things Dump!! And if any GOP justifies his name calling 'Miss Piggy' as normal, than they are unchristian! And we know Dump's hard core supporters are TV evangelists watchers.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
6. The first I saw of him was a 60 Minutes segment back in the 80s, I believe.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:17 AM
Jun 2017

He came across as a narcissistic con man then, and time has only embellished that impression.

He is a truly awful human being.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
7. A long time ago.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:20 AM
Jun 2017

I have just heard about him, seen him on t.v, and read about him and did not like the person he was/is.

KT2000

(20,583 posts)
8. when he bought Merv Griffen's
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:20 AM
Jun 2017

hotel. Always thought he was an ass but after he bought the hotel he bragged about screwing Griffen over on the deal. At that time Griffen was up in years and not in good health. That was when I determined he was a low life shithead.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
9. His birther shit in 2011.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:22 AM
Jun 2017

Up until that point, he wasn't remotely on my radar. I had zero interest in him, his life, or anything else involving him. He was just some tacky douche that I didn't care about

Wawannabe

(5,661 posts)
56. During birther shit
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jun 2017

I wrote him off as a lunatic. Serious batshit crazy lunatic!
I was going NUTZO during 2016 with him gaining ground in the R primaries.
OMG

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
10. The elder Trump children are no different......
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:23 AM
Jun 2017


Donnie, Jr., Eric, and Ivanka are cut from the same cloth as their father. Spoiled, over privileged, entitled. Hard to respect them when they play the victim card all the time.
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
11. Mid '80s when he ruined the USFL
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:38 AM
Jun 2017

I moved to Las Vegas primarily because betting on that league was so easy. It was cupcakes. I would make 3-team parlays and be surprised if I lost. You could bet the same teams every week. The chief Las Vegas oddsmaker later conceded it was by far the worst work he had ever done. No kidding. The games were college-type disparity but they were hanging odds like it was pro football sameness. I was living in Los Angeles but so obsessed with the USFL that I was calling the phone number with updated odds every 10-15 minutes.

The league had a nice niche as a spring league but Trump destroyed it via moronic fall/NFL aspirations that had no chance.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
12. 1980, when he destroyed the Bonwit Teller 1929 Art Deco panels
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:40 AM
Jun 2017

to build tRump Tower. Bastard couldn't wait a couple of days for the Metropolitan Museum of Art to come in and conserve them.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/trump-files-when-donald-destroyed-priceless-art-build-trump-tower/

New Yorkers have that remember have never forgiven him for that.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
17. Me, too. Born in Manhattan, I grew up in north Jersey, riding the train in to the city
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 05:26 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:06 AM - Edit history (1)

late 50's-mid 60's and used to go to Bonwit's shopping with my mom.

Even though we moved to California in 1965, we stayed in touch with neighbors, friends and we heard about
what he'd done when he destroyed those art deco panels.

A$$hole.

There are photos in this story, which, if you click, you can enlarge to see the details of what was destroyed.

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/18/trumps-first-media-controversy-is-a-really-great-story/

Buns_of_Fire

(17,181 posts)
13. The day he mocked Serge Kovaleski (the disabled reporter).
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:54 AM
Jun 2017

Before that, he was just another rich egocentric asscarrot who played in his world while I played in mine.

airmid

(500 posts)
14. My Mom watched all those tabloid tv shows too that Donnie frequented. She hated
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 04:10 AM
Jun 2017

him and so did I. She died a few years ago but if she were still alive, him being President would have killed her.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
15. Late 1970's and Early 80's
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 04:15 AM
Jun 2017

He was already pulling shady shit when he was involved with selling and revamping MSG in the late 1970's when I was a kid growing up and playing ice hockey on L.I. Once he got married (Ivana), my parents regularly ridiculed him for his hucksterism, his greed and for what they called his "mail-order bride."

I, too, thought this guy died with the 20th century.

"More the fool, I."

Resist!
Vote 2018!

DFW

(54,403 posts)
16. My sister did a children's gig once when Trump was to appear
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 04:23 AM
Jun 2017

She was dressed as a Mickey Mouse character at some charity event for ghetto children on the New Jersey shore. Trump was to fly in as a celebrity guest, although she said most of the kids seemed to have no idea who he was. He flew in his helicopter, gathered the children around, and told them that if they worked really hard like he did, they, too would someday have their own helicopter. And then he got back in his helicopter and flew off. Everyone said a collective "HUH?" and then went back to whatever they were doing.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
19. I used to just think of him as a rich stupid prick.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 05:46 AM
Jun 2017

I never gave him much thought at all. There are a lot of rich pricks in he world who are greedy and have no clue about the world. He is a ridiculous example of a human being. His name would chomp every now and then in a tv show or book as an example of a rich guy. I was aware that he had a reality tv but I never watched it. He was a left over from the 1980s who was desperately trying to get attention. I guess I really started to hate him when he said Mexicans were rapist when he started running for president. I started to really despise him that day. I loathed him more every day since.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
22. I can't recall exactly, but it was sometime before "Trump: The Game" was sold.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:08 AM
Jun 2017


It was clear to me very soon after I saw him in the media that he was a self-promoting, low-character narcissist.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
23. I read the Art of the Deal as a teenager and the other books of that ilk that came out in the 80s.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:16 AM
Jun 2017

I read everything I could get my hands on, so it wasn't really a matter of taste, it was just there (my dad brought it home). It was literally nothing but DFT talking about how great he was at "making deals." That's when DFT first entered my consciousness as a shitty self-aggrandizing salesman.

I was dimly aware of him throughout the 90s but recall thinking he was an asshole after he suggested the Central Park 5 deserved the death penalty even after they were acquitted.

Then the Rosie O'Donnell feud was bad enough... but

The birther bullshit sealed the deal. Fuck him straight to hell.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
24. I guess the 1st time I saw his face on TV or in a magazine in the late 70s early 80s
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:33 AM
Jun 2017

I just knew this was someone that I wouldn't want to do lunch with. So I guess I never liked him and thought him a pompous arse who was all about self-promotion. I took a little secret pleasure when he was in financial trouble. I thought it might be good for him. But his kind never really lose, everyone around them does.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
25. Mine is personal
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:34 AM
Jun 2017

In 2008 he wanted a remodeled bathroom at Maralago. He came to my husbands work and wanted them to do the work. When they gave him the price, he said no,"I think you should do it at no cost. You can tell everyone that you remodeled my home."

The owner told him to get out. He of course wanted something for nothing!!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
26. So far back that I can't remember
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:37 AM
Jun 2017

I didn't NEED to know about his bankruptcies, his stiffing contractors, his misogyny...I disliked him before hearing about any of that. All he had to do was open his mouth.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
28. He always struck me as POS self promoter and con man
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:39 AM
Jun 2017

I never understood the "brand" thing - why would anyone want anything associated with him?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. I never understood the "brand" thing either.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:20 AM
Jun 2017

I just associate the name Trump with trashiness and vulgarity, which is I suppose the opposite of what they think it represents.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
29. I don't think I was aware of him until the 90's
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:44 AM
Jun 2017

And I can't recall how or when I first learned of him but I know my impressions have always been negative. And it's juts continued to go down from there.

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
31. never really liked him but really didn't pay any attention to him
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:45 AM
Jun 2017

not until the campaign. Then I realized how monumentally stupid the guy is. How he couldn't find his ass with both hands and a GPS tracker. Juvenile, childish, boorish, clueless. Keeps blathering on and on while obviously having no idea how utterly idiotic he is.

Of course the hatred toward trumpie since he started putting his policies in pace is starkly self evident.

CozyMystery

(652 posts)
32. I can't recall ever liking him.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 06:49 AM
Jun 2017

I remember his marriages, divorces, reality show, and then his attacks on Obama and the birther stuff.

I didn't watch tv back then because I was too busy. I did the read the newspapers, and later the news on the internet, though.

By the time he ran for president this time around, I paid attention to him on purpose. I thought he was not electable. He didn't know anything about being the president, he lied, he incited violence and hatred, his campaign was a continuous attack on the other candidates, and I thought he was a con man, a sociopath and a malignant narcissist.

It was obvious to me. I thought it was obvious to everyone. It should have been since so many voted against their own interests.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
35. when i heard him referred to as The Donald and i saw his...
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 07:13 AM
Jun 2017

...trump towers every where. what a narcissist I thought.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
36. I never gave a second of thought to him until he was on television.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 07:34 AM
Jun 2017

And then I regarded him as a not-terribly-entertaining reality TV star. The noise about Ivana and Marla and whatever else he did was just tabloid headlines at the grocery store checkout. I thought his run for office was a publicity stunt and, to this day, I think it might have been. He doesn't want to be POTUS, he wants to be the subject of worship. He never meant to win. I hope the country survives this debacle.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
37. I did not think much of him
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 07:38 AM
Jun 2017

might have vaguely wondered why any press was covering him and why any women would fight over him. So it was only when he started running and things came out like the tape of him telling people to get someone out and he'd pay the bills if they beat him up, making fun of the disabled reporter and just his ugly voice and unprofessional demeanor.

Thirties Child

(543 posts)
45. Heard of him same as you, the fights in Aspen over Marla
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:30 AM
Jun 2017

I don't know how I knew about him since I've never watched ET.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
50. Growing up in NYC (Queens) in the 60s and 70s
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:01 AM
Jun 2017

I couldn't stomach him even when I was a kid.

I read the report about him denying housing to minorities, flouting anti-discrimination laws, in 1973. and that rubbed me the wrong way. Even back then, he was an insufferable bigot whose hatred was outdone only by his shameless self-promotion, just like his no-good, KKK father.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
51. An unrepentant racist. Caught discriminating by the govt and not a single apology.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:08 AM
Jun 2017

He and his father are vile.

And every single person of color and non-racist in his camp are reprehensible.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
53. I never paid much attention to him until he got going on the birther thing.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:10 AM
Jun 2017

I vaguely knew who he was and had heard of his marital escapades, but had never watched his dumb TV show or otherwise paid him much mind - as far as I knew he was just another rich, flamboyant asshole; a louche, obnoxious habitué of the New York social scene. When he started in on his "birther" crusade I saw that he was a much bigger and more toxic asshole than I had previously realized.

LeftInTX

(25,369 posts)
68. Same here
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jun 2017

In the 80s, he was tabloid fodder and appeared on annoying shows like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. I kinda followed the Marla Maples thing because it was in People magazine at a doctor's office.

I didn't have the time or effort to pay any attention to him. I really had no opinion of him. There was also Leona Helmsly and bunch of other characters bursting on the scene around that time. Throw in the Reagan excesses and yuck.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
54. In the 1980s when he first started priding himself on being a greedy con man
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:13 AM
Jun 2017

When he first started bragging about accumulating wealth through NYC real easte by destroying those who did not have the financial means to fight him.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
57. In the 80's. He was one of the "faces" of the wealth is a virtue attitude of the Reagan era .
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jun 2017

He reminds me of my asshole brother-in-law.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
62. The same time as you.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:42 AM
Jun 2017

And, I'm still scratching my head as to why he got the attention he did even back then.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
65. Basically since the 1980's and every single reason stated in this thread...
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jun 2017

......except I could have cared less about his infidelities.....but I was disgusted by how he spoke about his wife, women in general, his creepy relationship with his daughter and anytime he opened his anus mouth what came out of it. He is dishonest and narcissistic and he is a phony who pretended he was a success. His Trump Tower and everything he touched was gaudy and tacky and I don't know a New Yorker who doesn't hate him and will never forget what he did to the Bonwit Teller art that could have been saved and he chose not to save. I have never met anyone who liked him or spoke highly of him. I went to Penn and the Wharton School and everyone joked about him claiming he went to Wharton when in fact it was the undergraduate program and he transferred in and he was an asshole nobody with no friends and nobody had anything nice to say about him. He was and is a joke. His book "The Art of the Deal" was a joke. No one I have met has ever believed he was a Billionaire and I think the first time I ever heard of bankruptcy in the media multiple times was in stories about Trump.

Then the birther episode and what he said about Obama happened and I thought this man is seriously delusional and not well in the head (in addition to an asshole and a phony).

When the Pussygrabbing video came out and he didn't apologize and all the women who came forward, I wasn't surprised, but thoroughly disgusted and it brought up for me my own trauma from my past of being sexually assaulted, especially when I saw how it was just ignored essentially or excused by so many. That should have been the end of his political ambitions.

When he mocked the disabled WP reporter, made his statements about Gold Star parents (the Khans), suggested violence and beating protesters at his rallys and suggested that they go ahead, he will pay for the legal bills......thats when I knew that this man was absolute scum and with no morals and very very dangerous...

The list goes on of course and what he does everyday he occupies space in our world...the danger he poses to the world and our futures....

I don't dislike this man.....I loathe him....I don't consider him human....he makes me ill....I never thought I would say this, but I would happily take back George W Bush if we were given the option...Cheney also....

Yeah, its that bad....

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
66. Mid 1990s when I bumped into his repellant
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 10:51 AM
Jun 2017

Ass yelling and abusing his minions in the Houston airport.

One of the worst public display of assholery I have ever seen.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
67. I remember back in the late 80s/early 90s when Trump's first divorce hit....
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jun 2017

....I was sitting with my parents watching ABC News tonight and the divorce was a leading story, and I remember my dad shouting at the TV, "Why the hell should anyone care about Donald Trump and why is this news?"

Then I remember reading about his bankruptcies and thinking, "If this guy portrays himself to be such a masterful businessman and super rich guy, why is he going bankrupt and why is he living like money's not an issue to him?"

Then I remember reading the National Enquirer at my grandparents' house (because that was really the only reading material they had laying around on hand) back when Ivanka was still a pre-teen and they were already heralding her as the next great supermodel and I remember feeling rather skeeved out about that. (Trump has been longtime friends with the National Enquirer's publisher which explains their glowing coverage of him over the years.)

Then I remember a dispute Trump got into with Palm Beach International Airport because they had the audacity to have the flightpath of airplanes flying into the airport near Mar a Lago.

Then I remember reading about how he completely ruined the USFL.

I never liked him at all, even before he was political. He always seemed to me to be a super-sketchy, narcissitic and thin skinned charlatan. There were very few celebrities I actively disliked, but he was one of them. He always rubbed me the wrong way.

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
69. I first noticed he was a jerk on the apprentice, but I really disliked him
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:15 AM
Jun 2017

when he started with the racist birther rants and demands for President Obama's college transcripts.

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
70. 1982 when Trump thought he was
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jun 2017

going to create another successful professional football league and ruined Herschel Walker's senior year of eligibility at Georgia because Trump wanted Walker to be the centerpiece for his new team, the "New Jersey Generals." An agent for Trump contacted Herschel with the offer and that was a violation of NCAA rules; Walker had to forfeit his senior season.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
71. The very first time I saw his face and stupid hair do. 1980something.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jun 2017

I LOL and thought geez what a funny looking maroon. I liked bugs bunny back then. My opinion of the orange faced man has not changed. He is an idiot, just an older idiot now.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
72. Trumps lack of class after a real estate exchange with Merv Griffin.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:05 PM
Jun 2017

In a highly publicized trade of multi-million dollar properties, Trump continuously bragged to the media about how he got the better of Griffin.

Griffin, on the other hand, just shrugged it of, saying he was more than satisfied with the deal because he got exactly what he was looking for.

 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
73. When he was on his Birther campaign
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jun 2017

That drew the line for me.

I was a NYer from late 97's to '07 and just found him to be mildly entertaining, knew that many found him to be an a-hole, but the birther campaign was the last straw for me.

ProfessorGAC

(65,068 posts)
74. Probably Can't Pinpoint An Exact Time
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jun 2017

But when he was planning that abomination of a building in Chicago, and we found out in short order that he didn't have 2% of the money needed, i convinced myself he was a flim-flam artist. I believe i have been proven correct.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
75. I disliked him from the first time I heard about him
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jun 2017

He symbolized greedy, entitled rich people.

But it is only when he started getting political during the Obama years that I developed a special dislike.

Solly Mack

(90,771 posts)
76. He was never more than a tabloid to me.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jun 2017

Now he's a tabloid and a danger to me.

Never liked him. He was never my problem before now. He should have remained that way for everyone.

He was a big joke that made the news from time to time. An obnoxious man with a loud mouth.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,026 posts)
80. Sometime in the 90's
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:43 PM
Jun 2017

Not sure exactly when.

Let me start by saying I read "Art of the Deal" in 1988. The book makes him look like a pretty okay guy. (Found out last year the book was ghost written.)

He touted what a sure bet the casino business was. Yet later his Atlantic City casino went bankrupt.

His father bought a shitload of chips in an attempt to bail him out.

About the same time the Seattle area was experiencing the tech boom. Out of that came several self made billionaires whose net worth put Donald Trump to shame.

These people in my mind were the real entrepreneurs.

Finally when he got involved in the whole birther nonsense he came off as no more than a bloviating gasbag.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
81. I graduated high school in 87, but knew of trump from the media all through high school.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jun 2017

Back then, I always considered him to be a wannabee Gordon Gekko from the movie Wall Street.

Nothing has ever changed my opinion of him.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
82. My first introduction was The Apprentice.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:50 PM
Jun 2017

I was disgusted by the manner in which he spoke to women on the show.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
84. I didn't know
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jun 2017

much about him until after 2008. He unleashed all of his bigotry out of the closet as a Black man dared to become president. As I heard more about the Birther movement, Donald's father, and the housing controversy in the 1970s, that was how my distaste towards him grew. It's one thing to be a Republican, but I have zero respect for him after not only all of this, but after how he was endorsed by conspiracy kooks, the KKK, and Russia, and how he called his opponent "Crooked Hillary" even though he himself has been under scrutiny and investigation for shady dealings. I respect him so little that I never refer to him as "President".

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