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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWTF- Per CBO, 4 million people would lose *employer-provided* coverage next year under BCRA.
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A working man or woman is going to lose his or health care. The GOP is a death cult.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I said as soon as they start messing with the individual issue market it would bleed into the group market.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Our little company will have to drop coverage if nobody wants to pay
spanone
(135,844 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)will start laying off, then the health sector slumps, and the recession soon follows.
They're about to take a huge amount of money out of the current economy. You lose your job, then your coverage, then you get a new job, but fall into the 63day hole and thus lose coverage got 6 months and have to pay possibly a 30% premium to get it back, meaning you get hurt again in the pocket book. How would anyone not think this is going to hurt the current economy?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)"Because the B.C.R.A. eliminates the penalty for employers of a certain size who dont provide insurance to workers, the C.B.O. predicts that 4 million people would lose employer-sponsored coverage by 2018."
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/cbo-score-senate-health-care-bill
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Maybe we can kill this bill. Nothing focuses a politician's attention like his or her electoral prospects
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)My understanding is,there are more than 12 million workers in this group. Here is another thing that likely will happen. Companies on the Numbers edge will create Subsidiarity companies reassign workers to these units and kill the Insurance.
Seen this happen in Union Covered Workers.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)We lose O'Care the rest goes...Medicaid, Medicare, employer base insurance, some will be dropped, premiums are going to rise. Health Care for all Americans are going to be taking a huge hit.
Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)So while employers still may offer coverage, many will opt to save money with lesser plans.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)predictable outcomes of this action.
MF republican kochroaches.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Premiums will rise FIVE FOLD for workers 50-65 on individual plans. That will also effect company plans - my insurance at age 61 cost my employer $1300 a month. It cost them $400 a month for 30-year-old employees. Imagine if that employer was suddenly looking at a monthly premium of $6500 a month to insure a 61-year-old.
That puts pressure on companies to fire older employees and replace them with younger workers. But since firing older works for being older is a lawsuit waiting to happen, the solution will be to just drop insurance coverage for everyone at a company.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)I have never seen large employer group plans charge different rates for age. Doesn't mean they can't start.
MiniMe
(21,717 posts)Since the CEO's and the VP's are usually older, the employer doesn't charge more. But that could change, depending on the new premiums.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)The employer may pay different rates depending on the plan chosen and the type of coverage (single, family etc.) but not on the age or gender of the individual, in large group plans. My employer is self-insured so they base the group rate on the previous year's claims, which spreads the risk like insurance is supposed to do. Who knows what will happen now.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Every single one of them is a Trump voter.
So....when the premiums jack up next year...do I act the good liberal and pay it and continue to help my employees and their families?
Or do I drop it with the knowledge that each one of those employees was personally responsible for losing their insurance with their vote and their continued alliance with Trump and the Republicans?
Moral compass time.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts)It's what they chose.