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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:34 AM Jun 2017

Senator: Trump "seemed especially confused" at WH TrumpCare meeting



“A senator who supports the bill left the meeting at the White House with a sense that the president did not have a grasp of some basic elements of the Senate plan — and seemed especially confused when a moderate Republican complained that opponents of the bill would cast it as a massive tax break for the wealthy,” the Times reported a senate staffer revealed.

The senator also said that Trump said he would navigate tax reform later, and seemed to ignore the tax implications that are part of the new health bill.

Trump then went on to declare victory of the meeting.

“I just finished a great meeting with the Republican Senators concerning HealthCare,” he tweeted. “They really want to get it right, unlike OCare!”

“If we don’t get it done it’s just going to be something that we’re not going to like and that’s OK and I understand that very well,” Trump said before the press was asked to leave the meeting.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trump-bombed-at-gop-senate-health-care-meeting-because-he-was-clueless-about-what-was-in-the-bill/
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Senator: Trump "seemed especially confused" at WH TrumpCare meeting (Original Post) Miles Archer Jun 2017 OP
Vaudeville at the White House vlyons Jun 2017 #1
Republican Senators are confused get the red out Jun 2017 #2
Republican Senators just found out that water is wet Ezior Jun 2017 #3
What do they expect, he gets all of his news from Fox News, I mean this! Dustlawyer Jun 2017 #19
Right ! I flipped over to Fox when the 22 billion number came out. You know what their headline Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #32
All trump knows how to do is sign his name on Executive Orders. He is chelsea0011 Jun 2017 #6
Remember...... ewagner Jun 2017 #31
You could tell he really digs signing those orders - "this is so great being president ! It's easy Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #35
So no one sits him down Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #4
If they do, he doesn't listen anyway. Miles Archer Jun 2017 #5
Theres no sitting madokie Jun 2017 #22
He needs to be spoonfed information NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #34
the casino conman was onethatcares Jun 2017 #7
He moved on the Irish reporter very heavily, like a *****, but just couldn't get there Miles Archer Jun 2017 #21
why are people still surprised he is a clueless fucking idiot ? JI7 Jun 2017 #8
+1 narnian60 Jun 2017 #11
I Can't Believe RobinA Jun 2017 #41
and he's sitting in the WH???? bdamomma Jun 2017 #47
That's because Trump isn't the kind of boss who cares about your work. DetlefK Jun 2017 #9
I.e., He uses these types of things for photo-ops. nt BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #13
Probably one of the most repeated phrases in Washington these days: DFW Jun 2017 #10
He's in over his depth in a puddle. mythology Jun 2017 #15
True, that! n/t DFW Jun 2017 #18
HEY! He's new at the job Miles Archer Jun 2017 #23
And Trump has "only" been $2 billion in debt DFW Jun 2017 #26
$100, nothing Wednesdays Jun 2017 #29
Didn't know it had gotten that bad DFW Jun 2017 #42
Trump is a special level of stupid YCHDT Jun 2017 #36
The way he's going... DFW Jun 2017 #44
Anyone who reads Tony Schwartz's descriptions of Trump... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #12
"complained that opponents of the bill would cast it as a massive tax break for the wealthy" BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #14
And that confused him because that's what he wants, so he expects the bill's supporters to say that muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #38
Well, his source of info is Fox, which ignore stories unfavorable Alice11111 Jun 2017 #16
Yep. That's how he was so in tune with morons who watch that crap. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #30
Afraid you are spot on. Fox needs to go! Alice11111 Jun 2017 #46
He just tweeted about this oberliner Jun 2017 #17
What a total clueless dumbass jimlup Jun 2017 #20
The King has no clothes TNNurse Jun 2017 #24
What the hell does that last... 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #25
The M*A*S*H "AHHH...BACH" moment Miles Archer Jun 2017 #28
Lmao...exactly right! One of my favorite episodes! Docreed2003 Jun 2017 #37
I remember that scene! 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #39
Dude is over his head Thrill Jun 2017 #27
The Dude Emperor is wearing no clothes. yellowcanine Jun 2017 #43
He exists in a world between times AllyCat Jun 2017 #33
What trump knows about healthcare amounts to exactly jack and crap... Docreed2003 Jun 2017 #40
"Listen, we all know this can be easily paid for by the internet tax." Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #45

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. Vaudeville at the White House
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:44 AM
Jun 2017

Republican Trump tells a few lies, does a little softshoe dance, slips on a banana peel. Look at the expression on Murkowski's face. If only she could throw an iron skillet at him.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
2. Republican Senators are confused
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:49 AM
Jun 2017

If they expected Trump would have a clue about anything in a piece of legislation.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
19. What do they expect, he gets all of his news from Fox News, I mean this!
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:29 AM
Jun 2017

Fox isn't talking about the massive tax break give away the Bill accomplishes or else their base might get a clue!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
32. Right ! I flipped over to Fox when the 22 billion number came out. You know what their headline
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:21 AM
Jun 2017

was? Trumpcare cuts deficit by $whatever

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
6. All trump knows how to do is sign his name on Executive Orders. He is
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 06:15 AM
Jun 2017

completely unqualified to do anything else a POTUS might be expected to do. Believe it. He can't even meet with world leaders without fucking that up.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
31. Remember......
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jun 2017

when a top Republican operative stated that all Conservatives require of a President is someone with enough manual dexterity to sign his name?

They got their wish....

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. You could tell he really digs signing those orders - "this is so great being president ! It's easy
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:27 AM
Jun 2017

I just think of anything I want to do, tell someone to write it up, and I get to be on teevee, and sign it surrounded by my faithful adorers."

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
5. If they do, he doesn't listen anyway.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:57 AM
Jun 2017

"The senator also said that Trump said he would navigate tax reform later, and seemed to ignore the tax implications that are part of the new health bill."

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. Theres no sitting
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:31 AM
Jun 2017

that goofy bastard down and explaining anything to him. He is incapable of learning. He is stupid and dumb as a post.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
34. He needs to be spoonfed information
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:26 AM
Jun 2017

with lots of pictures and his name highlighted all over the page. So, things like "details" aren't part of his briefings

Not joking.

onethatcares

(16,178 posts)
7. the casino conman was
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 06:29 AM
Jun 2017

thinking about the Irish reporter. Do you actually think he has room in that head for two thoughts at one time?

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
21. He moved on the Irish reporter very heavily, like a *****, but just couldn't get there
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:30 AM
Jun 2017

I wonder if he considered taking her shopping for furniture, and if he had remembered his Tic Tacs before making his move.

What an embarrassment.



RobinA

(9,894 posts)
41. I Can't Believe
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:53 AM
Jun 2017

people were EVER surprised that he was a clueless fucking idiot, but yeah, it does get more mindblowing the further down this road we get.

bdamomma

(63,914 posts)
47. and he's sitting in the WH????
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:53 PM
Jun 2017

it is really disgusting how much turmoil we are in. He needs to goooooooo.....he is a BS artist.

He is really going to screw a lot of people.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
9. That's because Trump isn't the kind of boss who cares about your work.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 06:36 AM
Jun 2017

You get hired, you do the job, he takes credit, you get fired.
Trump doesn't care about details.
He doesn't care about sabotaging the people who work for him.
He cares so little about what the people working for him are actually doing that he doesn't even know how to HIRE qualified people.

You are asking for proof?

Here's an example: Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump.
Trump knows so little about what's the problem, that he thinks he can hire random people to take care of it.

Another example: WH-staff.
The climate is toxic and full of backstabbing, and all Trump is noticing from the workplace is that nothing gets done.

DFW

(54,426 posts)
10. Probably one of the most repeated phrases in Washington these days:
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 06:36 AM
Jun 2017

"Trump seemed a little in over his depth when trying to discuss this issue."

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
23. HEY! He's new at the job
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:31 AM
Jun 2017

Remember the Republican mantra about Obama being unfit for the job because he'd "only" been a Senator?

DFW

(54,426 posts)
26. And Trump has "only" been $2 billion in debt
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:39 AM
Jun 2017

It's one of those philosophical questions, like "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a noise?"

If Trump says he has a net worth of $7 billion and debts of $9 billion, is he rich? I guess the answer is, "if he plans to enege on his debts, then he is rich."

It is true after all: steal $100, and you're a criminal. Steal $100 million, and you're a hero.

DFW

(54,426 posts)
42. Didn't know it had gotten that bad
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:12 AM
Jun 2017

I haven't lived in the States for years now. In Germany, it's the opposite. Rob a store and bash the owner's head in with a baseball bat, you get 6 months, suspended. In France, it's even crazier. A shop owner I knew was attacked, in his shop, by a Bulgarian "regular customer" with a hammer. He was 70 years old, but managed to grab the hammer from his attacker while blood was streaming from his head, and subdue the Bulgarian with it. The Bulgarian was let off on the name of "tolerance" and the shop owner was charged with assault and battery (happy ending: not convicted).

BumRushDaShow

(129,303 posts)
14. "complained that opponents of the bill would cast it as a massive tax break for the wealthy"
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:00 AM
Jun 2017

Because that's exactly what it is. They don't need another "tax reform" piece of legislation because this is it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,347 posts)
38. And that confused him because that's what he wants, so he expects the bill's supporters to say that
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:40 AM
Jun 2017

Since this was not a public meeting, he thought they'd all admit that this is about giving more money to the extremely rich, and celebrate that.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
16. Well, his source of info is Fox, which ignore stories unfavorable
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:10 AM
Jun 2017

to Repubs, even if EVERY world newspaper is reporting the stories...then there are alternative facts and feeedom facts has fredom which he thinks everone know.When he sits do to discuss rhe facts w prople who know something, he must think he is in a whole new world

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
30. Yep. That's how he was so in tune with morons who watch that crap.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:08 AM
Jun 2017

It wasn't Trump being a "political genius" to win their support early in the GOP primaries. He was just repeating the garbage that he saw on FOX and the FOX-bot voters approved it.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
46. Afraid you are spot on. Fox needs to go!
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:18 PM
Jun 2017

More boycotts by advertisers. We should call them out, but who can stand to watch them for mote than 5 min.
I read their mobile news to compare what garbage they are reporting. It is not as bad as TV. Guess they figure their audience can't or don't read.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
28. The M*A*S*H "AHHH...BACH" moment
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:01 AM
Jun 2017

Famous scene from M*A*S*H...Radar doesn't have a clue about how to talk with women. Hawkeye tells him that whenever he doesn't know what to say he should simply sigh and say "Ahhh...BACH." Radar tries it and one woman replies "What's that MEAN?"



Trump simply opens his mouth and things come out and then we get to see Reince Priebus at the other end of the table, telling him how blessed he is to have a job in his administration.

"Ahhhh...BACH."



3catwoman3

(24,025 posts)
39. I remember that scene!
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:42 AM
Jun 2017

Whenever POSUS (my new acronym for Trump - Piece of $h!t of the United States) says anything, my usual response as, "Aah, crap!"

Docreed2003

(16,869 posts)
40. What trump knows about healthcare amounts to exactly jack and crap...
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:44 AM
Jun 2017

When he was pushed about the details of his plan in an interview around the time of the election, it was blatantly obvious that he had no concept of the problems with the ACA and his "magnificent plan" was nothing more than buzzwords and campaign jargon....it would be magnificent because it would have his name attached to it, essentially.

The anti-intellectuals have won this round with Trump as president. He doesn't have either the intellect or the desire to learn the intricacies of this bill. His sole motivation is closing the deal, a win. He's the convenient idiot for the GOP's Randian wet dreams.

If these fuckers stay in power, look for them to dismantle Medicare and SS in similar fashion

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