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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:55 AM Jul 2017

All the warning signs are right there:

Nepotism
Cronyism
No respect for free press
Limiting access for free press
Desire to cozy up to rogue leaders
Use of office for self-enrichment
Use of office for personal glorification
Creating an alternate narrative of facts
Belief that one's position makes himself above the law
Purging dissenters/whistleblowers from public positions
Desire to obstruct investigations that could shed negative light on him
Subtle attempts to restrict voting rights
Creating an "us versus them" mentality amongst supporters
Blackmail

The flags of authoritarianism/autocracy are so red you can waive them at a bull.

The gasoline has been poured. God help us if they light a match.

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All the warning signs are right there: (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2017 OP
When they came for the illegals, I was a citizen, so I didn't care...... Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #1
This. zentrum Jul 2017 #3
And yet nothing at all has happened to him and nothing is close to taking him down. Scary. n/t USALiberal Jul 2017 #2
Wrong. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #4
I do not see what you are seeing. Mueller's deal could take 2 years. Impeachment will never.... USALiberal Jul 2017 #7
forget impeachement, we will be lucky AlexSFCA Jul 2017 #12
YEP Cosmocat Jul 2017 #13
Unfortunately, you are all assuming that the 2018 elections won't be hacked by Russia Stonepounder Jul 2017 #21
That is a cop out Cosmocat Jul 2017 #22
How the fuck is it a cop out?? Stonepounder Jul 2017 #25
It's a cop out Cosmocat Jul 2017 #31
I agree with you! n/t USALiberal Jul 2017 #17
Unless the democrats are willing to actually write up DK504 Jul 2017 #16
I want this to drag on. Blue_true Jul 2017 #24
YEP Cosmocat Jul 2017 #14
And... NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #5
The warning is also posted at the Holocaust Museum Snarkoleptic Jul 2017 #6
That sums him up fairly well Egnever Jul 2017 #30
Brace yourself... dobleremolque Jul 2017 #8
It will happen. pangaia Jul 2017 #9
Scary but true. Sparkly Jul 2017 #27
praising and cozying up to authoritarians, lusting for violence, contempt for the constitution, etc. unblock Jul 2017 #10
Hate to say this hadEnuf Jul 2017 #11
Figuratively, yes. Literally, no Cosmocat Jul 2017 #15
To each their own I guess. hadEnuf Jul 2017 #18
Trump is largely being circumscribed by the Courts. Blue_true Jul 2017 #26
The match may be a natural disaster of some kind YCHDT Jul 2017 #19
Subtle? joanbarnes Jul 2017 #20
Except for nepotism, Hitler did all of those things. Divide and outlaw was his method. nt Blue_true Jul 2017 #23
You forgot racism & conservative religion Crash2Parties Jul 2017 #28
I just returned from a family dinner and we discussed all of the above BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #29
The combination of 2 things - Trump's behavior and gerrymandering - make me think we are headed Vinca Jul 2017 #32

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
4. Wrong.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:26 AM
Jul 2017

tRump has been blocked in numerous ways.

Facts about Republican Trump have come to light that he would rather you not know.

He and his gang have had to hire personal lawyers because of what has happened.

Mueller has a great team investigating.

Impeachment gets closer by the day as Republican tRump gets more toxic to the GOP party brand and their 2018 & 2020 electoral chances.

There is even a serious effort to declare Republican Trump incompetent by way of the 25th Amendment.



Resist, Persist, Triumph.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
7. I do not see what you are seeing. Mueller's deal could take 2 years. Impeachment will never....
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:40 AM
Jul 2017

happen unless we get the GOP out of control in 2018.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
12. forget impeachement, we will be lucky
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 09:50 AM
Jul 2017

if we can get the senate back in 2018. If people don't show up to vote again then our country desrves all of it.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
13. YEP
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jul 2017

2018 is the shit or get off the pot moment for this country.

It could not possibly be more clear where we are and where we are heading.

People either are OK with it or will punish republicans in a BIG way.

Sadly, I am not seeing the second occuring.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
21. Unfortunately, you are all assuming that the 2018 elections won't be hacked by Russia
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jul 2017

just like the 2016 ones were. So long as PINO's approval ratings stay around 35% or higher, between gerrymandering, 6 hour long lines in Dem strongholds compared to 10 minute lines in GOP areas, voter suppression of Dems and liberals, they will make up the needed 16%. And don't forget the real 'fake news' like FOX and Breitbart will be in full throat as well to whip up the base and those on the fence.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
22. That is a cop out
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:35 PM
Jul 2017

Whatever hacking may or may not have, or could ircwould happen, the choices are stone cold clear, and there is no excuse for it to be remotely close to steal.

Side note, I work a poll that went overwhelmingly for 45, votes were tallied as everyone voted.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
25. How the fuck is it a cop out??
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:48 PM
Jul 2017

It is an opinion. I phone banked, gave rides to voters, walked blocks, and voted on election day - even though I knew there was no chance KY was going blue. And, the good lord willing, I will do it again in 2018.

But I also see the GOP gleefully take money from foreign interests and on the QT passing bills to destroy this country and a President who sets up a Voter Suppression Commission to make damn sure that the Repugs get to keep their majority. And his base is loving it. According to 538 his approval rating is STILL around 40%

So don't you dare say I am somehow 'copping out' just because I have a somewhat pessimistic view as to whether we will be able to save our country from becoming an Oligarchy that cares only for the rich.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
31. It's a cop out
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 05:54 AM
Jul 2017

Because it is placing the blame where it doesn't belong.

We are where we are at because of "us" not some nefarious forces "stealing" elections.

This country is making a conscious decision.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
16. Unless the democrats are willing to actually write up
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jul 2017

thew articles of Impeachment this whole circle jerk of investigations are a waste of time. Unless the truth comes out before 2018 elections, we still screwed.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. I want this to drag on.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:44 PM
Jul 2017

Everyday the republican brand becomes more toxic. That our recent special election candidates lost by single digests in double digits red districts says that a lot of moderate republicans are having second thoughts. When you see former conservative republicans become cheerleaders for Democrats, as some have, that says things are afoot, leaning in our direction.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
5. And...
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:29 AM
Jul 2017

Essentially 1 party control
"Weaponizing" religion
Highly apathetic, vulnerable public *with some exceptions of course
Growing outrage fatigue/growing normalization

dobleremolque

(492 posts)
8. Brace yourself...
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:57 AM
Jul 2017

Reichstag 2.0 will be that match. Ask yourself how you will react when everyone else is demanding solidarity and unity in the face of the attack on the country that is sure to come.

unblock

(52,256 posts)
10. praising and cozying up to authoritarians, lusting for violence, contempt for the constitution, etc.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 09:41 AM
Jul 2017

the list goes on and on....

hadEnuf

(2,194 posts)
18. To each their own I guess.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jul 2017

But considering what we are dealing with, I'm not so sure the literal part should be discarded.

A lot of good people tried to talk the German Nazis out of what they were doing too.


I just hope we don't get to the point where there is no choice and then realize that we have no plan.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. Trump is largely being circumscribed by the Courts.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:49 PM
Jul 2017

Liberal and Conservative Courts. If the Courts start rubber stamping his program wholesale, then I say start stockpiling guns and ammo. Although I really think that in a high tech war like we will have, guns will be rather useless pretty fast.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
29. I just returned from a family dinner and we discussed all of the above
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 02:20 AM
Jul 2017

as well as the replies. All 3 generations of heavy duty dems (thank god) brainstormed. Something truly horrible has to happen but we couldn't think of exactly what it would be since we don't think the same way as his base. Actually they don't think and that is a big problem.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
32. The combination of 2 things - Trump's behavior and gerrymandering - make me think we are headed
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 07:02 AM
Jul 2017

for a dictatorship. Once the GOP has a permanent majority, they get to choose the POTUS over and over and over again. We might have presidential term limits for the time being, but we don't have political party/wingnut term limits.

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