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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThese Coloradans say Earth is flat. And gravity's a hoax. Now, they're being persecuted.
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The Flat Earth movement is growing in Colorado, thanks to technology and skepticism about science
They have no leaders, no formal hierarchy and no enforced ideology, save a common quest for answers to questions about the stars. Their membership has slowly swelled in the past three years, though persecution and widespread public derision keep them mostly underground. Many use pseudonyms, or only give first names.
They just do not want to talk about it for fear of reprisals or ridicule from co-workers, says John Vnuk, the groups founder who lives in Fort Collins.
He is at the epicenter of a budding movement, one thats coming for your books, movies, God and mind. Theyre thousands strong perhaps one in every 500 and have proponents at the highest levels of science, sports, journalism and arts.They call themselves Flat Earthers. Because they believe Earth the blue, majestic, spinning orb of life is as flat as a table.
The Fort Collins group mostly white and mostly male, college-age to septuagenarian touts itself as the first community of Flat Earthers in the United States. Sister groups have since spawned in Boston, New York, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix and Chicago.
At the Tuesday night meet-ups, dubbed Flat Earth or Other Forbidden Topics, believers invite fellow adherents to open discussions in which the like-minded confirm one anothers hunches and laugh at the folly of those still stuck in the Enlightenment.Theres so much evidence once you set aside your preprogrammed learning and begin to look at things objectively with a critical eye, says Bob Knodel, a Denver resident and featured guest at a recent Tuesday meeting. You learn soon that what were taught is mainly propaganda.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/07/colorado-earth-flat-gravity-hoax/
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)...that's not as shocking g as it might be.
RoBear
(1,188 posts)it should be "bear to look" not bare.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts).............Sorry, but, I don't have the photoshop skills to fix a photoshop image.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,792 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Iggo
(47,561 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)This is the funniest thing I've seen all day.
jpak
(41,758 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Perfection.
JHB
(37,161 posts)...the cat saw an open area with nothing but little cardboard chits on it and wiped out half the galaxy while settling down for a nap.
burrowowl
(17,642 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Which is why today I will definitively state that the Earth is shaped like an cheese doodle and O.J. Simpson is the messiah.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)cheese doodle earthers.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Unfortunately I am a stranger who wandered in from another century.
riversedge
(70,267 posts)?w=620
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Members of Flat Earth Fort Collins watch YouTube videos on the topic at a meet up on June 27, 2017 at the Purple Cup in Fort Collins. The group is skeptical of the science behind the Earth being a spinning sphere.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Aristus
(66,434 posts)very hard...
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)And, wow,just...wow.
sarisataka
(18,732 posts)dhill926
(16,349 posts)WoonTars
(694 posts)...because if Fux "news" ran with it, they'd believe it...
Iggo
(47,561 posts)Oh, really.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I always thought Ft Collins would be a nice place to live. College town, Horsetooth Res for playing around. This article has dashed those dreams big time. Couldn't they move to Ft Lupton where the earth is much, much more flat?
Matthew28
(1,798 posts)wave of idiocy...We must fight and win over these bastards are we're going back to the stone age.
This is where the republicans are going.
Solly Mack
(90,778 posts)... They want you to think youre insignificant, a speck on the earth, a cosmic mistake, Sargent says. The flat earth says you are special, we are special, there is a creator, this isnt some accident.
The orthodox say their faith makes them a persecuted minority, mocked to their faces by friends and strangers for nothing more than First Amendment-protected beliefs." ...
Their "faith". A "creator". Yeah, I think we know where this is going. They're essentially calling this a religion.
They aren't saying 1st Amendment protected speech - they said 1st Amendment protected beliefs.
Both the protection of speech and the protection of religion is in the 1st amendment.
Yeah, it's laughable but...Trump.
Initech
(100,095 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)thing. No, I take that back.It was Sherri Shepard on The View. I was dumbfounded. Your top ten conservative idiots is awesome,btw!
Initech
(100,095 posts)Yeah that one was one of my favorites from the last season. Shaq went off the deep end.
struggle4progress
(118,320 posts)What happened to the dinosaurs? What happened to the mummy of Ramesses the First? Why aren't there medieval witches anymore? Where did King Edward V go? Where did the crew of the Mary Celeste go? What happened to Amelia Earhart?
The flat earth hypothesis provides one simple answer to these and many similar questions: they all fell off the edge
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Is beyond me.
Other than that, it makes a lot of sense. Except for everything about it.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Seriously, WTF?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)it's behind there.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Now we know!
JHan
(10,173 posts)their aim is to challenge Science ... any and all of it because Science challenges religious fundamentalist supremacy.
longship
(40,416 posts)Step 1: Get in your car.
Step 2: Drive to the summit of Pikes Peak.
Step 3: Get out of the car.
Step 4: Jump off the summit.
No gravity? You decide.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And maybe to make money off youtube.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)If it was night time and pitch black, it might work.
JHB
(37,161 posts)...a drinking club for contrarians. A get-together for habitual chain-yankers. They weren't serious about it. It was the reactions they liked, not the idea.
This bunch look to have "CT phone home" for a motto.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)There is so much evidence out there to refute their premise, how can they just ignore all that and make shit up the way they do?
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Religion just makes most people stupid. They can dismiss scientific fact without the slightest inquiry. Just because, god.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)Because Facts win wars.
Takket
(21,600 posts)I'll say this much.... they are fundraising for a billboard or whatever......... I'll donate to them but not for a billboard......... I'll donate to fund a commercial space trip about Space X or one of the private ships to send one of them into space, orbit the Earth, and come back down. If you can go all the way around and come back to where you started, you will know the earth is round.
of course i'm not really serious. much better uses of all of our money.
this is the problem with conspiracy theories. you get some smooth talking PT Barnum types to put it out there and the people who buy into it at the same time won't listen to the other side. A lot of it goes to plain old fashioned narcissism. "I'm really smart and can't possibly be wrong or not understand something, so this must be right..."
Oneironaut
(5,518 posts)Yes, people really believe this garbage...
Kaleva
(36,320 posts)Are all the other bodies in the universe also flat?
Shandris
(3,447 posts)Just the rare thread before, then slowly picked up. Last year they were a dime a dozen, and now their numbers have thinned a bit. Not sure what they're shilling for, but most of the nazi's consider them an alphabet psyop.
Interesting that they were alluded to in a speech by President Obama, wherein he mentioned we didn't have time to 'wait for a meeting of the Flat Earth Society'. Now these people are supposedly the first group.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)How do they explain that you can fly westward and eventually end up where you started? They don't believe compasses work? No magnetism?
I thought this was an onion article.
We're doomed. Don't give these people Narcan.
Hugin
(33,177 posts)Next they will be printing stories about how chocolate milk comes from brown cows and thunder is Thor rolling potatoes down the cellar stairs.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)I mean, really?!!?
People, you're not being persecuted, you're being mocked for making fools of yourselves. There's a difference.