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mopinko

(70,135 posts)
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 01:50 PM Jul 2017

so let me get this straight- opioid addicts get a carve out but

if you have cancer, chronic illnesses, brith defects, any other pre-existing conditions you can go fuck yourself.

wow, how they change their tunes when it is white people w a drug problem.

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so let me get this straight- opioid addicts get a carve out but (Original Post) mopinko Jul 2017 OP
If you are not saying WOW just WOW you must be a republican lunasun Jul 2017 #1
And yet a lot of them, equal percentage wise to Dems, will have those medical problems. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #2
rural whites with a drug problem maxsolomon Jul 2017 #3
so much of the aca was about figuring out what works. mopinko Jul 2017 #7
I head Graham's new plan ...block grants for the states so they can get rid of health care. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #4
Block grants atreides1 Jul 2017 #5
Whenever you hear a conservative say block grant BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #13
It means give this mess to the states so they can kill it and we don't get blamed. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #20
Where's those LittleActivists? Cracklin Charlie Jul 2017 #6
sorry, what is a carve out? Skittles Jul 2017 #8
yup. $45 m earmarked for opioid addiction treatment. mopinko Jul 2017 #10
yup Skittles Jul 2017 #11
Maintenance loyalsister Jul 2017 #17
true, but i dont know how many people would go for it. mopinko Jul 2017 #18
not enabling loyalsister Jul 2017 #19
And if you use ganja malaise Jul 2017 #9
You're Just Now Noticing That? Leith Jul 2017 #12
oh no. that was my first thought mopinko Jul 2017 #14
Perhaps We Should Commission a Billboard Leith Jul 2017 #15
ikr? mopinko Jul 2017 #16

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
2. And yet a lot of them, equal percentage wise to Dems, will have those medical problems.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 01:57 PM
Jul 2017

Somehow they think Chump will save them though!

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
3. rural whites with a drug problem
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 01:57 PM
Jul 2017

playing to the base, but they're barely paying attention now.

by the way, GOP, the cities are overrun with junkies, too, and you oppose safe injection sites.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
7. so much of the aca was about figuring out what works.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 03:59 PM
Jul 2017

about non-ideological approaches to problems.
i'm sure all that shit will go out the window.

Demsrule86

(68,593 posts)
4. I head Graham's new plan ...block grants for the states so they can get rid of health care.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 01:57 PM
Jul 2017

And same cuts for medicare...so thousands...millions in the end would die. I think it won't pass.

BannonsLiver

(16,397 posts)
13. Whenever you hear a conservative say block grant
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 07:45 PM
Jul 2017

It's never a good thing. It's like their shorthand for "cornholing the public".

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
10. yup. $45 m earmarked for opioid addiction treatment.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 07:08 PM
Jul 2017

something i would be a lot less upset about if we actually had good treatments for addiction. but we never invested in that because "we" thought it was just a brown people problem.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
11. yup
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jul 2017

with the rural white folk it is an addiction problem whereas with brown folk it is a criminal issue

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
17. Maintenance
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jul 2017

Opioid addiction can be maintained without being as damaging as it is currently. I think they should allow addicts to have access via pain clinics. They don't have to deal with criminals and doses can be monitored and provided safely. It seems logical to me that removing the most dangerous and destructive elements would allow people to live productive and comfortable lives with an opioid addiction.

Portugal has had a lot of success with decriminalization.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
18. true, but i dont know how many people would go for it.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 09:17 PM
Jul 2017

what happens when they want more and more? does the pain clinic give it to them?

if we hadnt wasted billions on a failed war on drugs, we would have good treatments.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. not enabling
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 09:33 PM
Jul 2017

Maintaining. Remove the demand for abstinence and provide doses to keep them from suffering through withdrawal. It could help people live as healthy and productive lives as possible with a medical addiction rather than demonizing them.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
12. You're Just Now Noticing That?
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jul 2017

It reminds me of how 30,000 losing their jobs in coal mining is horrible and has to be fixed, but over 200,000 retail employees losing their jobs at a time isn't even noticed. Millions of lost jobs in manufacturing is just good business.

Yeah, I don't get it, either.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
14. oh no. that was my first thought
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jul 2017

when the opioid thing started getting press, and was mentioned repeatedly in the health care debate.

thugs who fought mental health coverage all the sudden singin w the choir on opioids? yeah, white people problem now.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
15. Perhaps We Should Commission a Billboard
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 07:52 PM
Jul 2017

near high opioid consuming areas. It could be a picture of Nancy Reagan with the caption "Just Say 'No' "

Sorry, I didn't mean to be so snarky. I like your posts.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
16. ikr?
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 08:00 PM
Jul 2017

like i said in another post, if we had effective treatment (ahem, mm) it wouldnt stick in my craw quite so much.

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