Neil Gorsuch should resign when 45's criminal Russian collusion proves his admin cheated to win

[RiverStone]

Yea right. ((sarcasm))

The chances of Neil resigning when it's proven he was appointed by an illegitimate prez, are just as good as President Obama's Executive Orders being reinstated.

My point is in college football if a team (post victories) is proven to have cheated, the NCAA will order them to "vacate" the title and their wins.

When this dumpster fire burns to the ground and people are charged with crimes, do you see ANY PAYBACK to We The People for high crimes against our Democracy?

Of course, 45 himself and/or the SCOTUS will attempt to pardon said crimes.

[MineralMan]

1. In what ways are college football and the Presidency alike?

I look forward to learning about those similarities. Really...

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. In each one, somebody carries a football. NT

[MineralMan]

5. Ah, I see. OK, thanks.

They're like the same thing, I guess. Who knew?

[rzemanfl]

23. Lots of football references here today. See Post #5 in this thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029322756#post5

[RiverStone]

10. Tho 45 keeps moving the goalposts to accomodate his new daily lies n/t

[RiverStone]

7. Just drawing an anology of a system -NCAA- which "takes away a victory" after cheating is proven

Too bad we don't have a provision in the Constitution to take away 45's victory after his regime is proven to be full of criminals.

Otherwise, no other comparisons between football and the corrupt presidency.

[MineralMan]

14. There is no NCAA when it comes to the Presidency.

We have a Constitution, instead. There's no governing body for the President. He IS the governing Executive. There's no way to force a sitting SCOTUS justice to step down, short of an impeachment and removal by Congress. Not even the President can remove a sitting Justice.

The trouble with analogies is that when they aren't drawn between similar things, there really isn't any analogy there.

We don't have an NCAA-like body in our Federal Government.

[RiverStone]

22. In my dreams, the only way to "vacate" 45's victory is...

With a new amendment to the Constitution which provides for a mechanism to invalidate an entire election.

Not gonna happen.

Yes, the NCAA and presidency are different animals. It's very unfortunate there is no remedy to stop an illegitimate regimes actions from taking effect --- that is, except hoping in 2018 we have the majority to begin to repair the damage.

[First Speaker]

3. Hah. That's expecting a "conservative" to have a conscience...

...or any sense of morality or public good. Or even simple patriotism. When did any of them have any of that?

[bigtree]

4. did you watch his hearing?

...he's a slick snake.

[Chasstev365]

6. Or minimally, Merrick Garland automatically gets the next opening

on the Supreme Court. You hear that Mitch McConnell, you treasonous prick?

[RiverStone]

8. Damn right!

[DefenseLawyer]

9. I'd say the odds are better that John Roberts turns liberal

and I put the odds of that at about 2%

[Fozzledick]

11. Fruit of a poisonous tree.

Under the rule of law it would be automatically invalidated, but the extreme court hasn't operated under the rule of law since the republicans crossed the Rubicon and overthrew the republic in December 2000.

[RiverStone]

15. What law re: invalidation are you referring to?

Curious minds want to know?

Thanks

[Fozzledick]

18. General legal principle regarding "Fruit of a poisonous tree".

Anything resulting from an illegal act by the government is itself illegitimate.

I don't know of a specific statute but it is well established by precedent, and is routinely used to disallow evidence of guilt resulting from an illegal search.

[RiverStone]

20. Got it. That is, if 2/3 of the Senate convicts him first

Sadly, I think many in the Senate are feasting on poisonous fruit and don't give a shit how sick this makes our country.

[DefenseLawyer]

21. Wong Sun v. United States 1963

Fruit of the Poisonous Tree is a legal metaphor for the proposition that evidence that is in and of itself legally obtained is nonetheless inadmissible when it arose from other evidence that was illegally obtained. So if the police kick in a person's door without a warrant and find a note that says drugs are in that person's office. They then use the note to get a warrant for the office and find drugs. The person would argue that the search of the office was invalid and the evidence obtained should be inadmissible, since it was "fruit of the poisonous tree, " that is, it originated from the prior illegal search.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

12. Should happen but won't

[Johonny]

13. I assume if the Dems win enough seats in 2018 to actually impeach Trump

and the evidence by then is overwhelming that he is impeached then they will have enough power and political momentum to impeach most of Trump's life term appointments if they choose to. My guess is they would choose to.

However, if the Dems sweep in 2018 Trump will probably walk away from the presidency he never really wanted and thus kill any momentum in that favor.

[58Sunliner]

16. If he had a shred of decency....

[Raster]

19. "If he had a shred of decency..."

[mountain grammy]

17. I think, eventually, a link will be found between

the Gorsuch family and Russian oligarchs. He was part of the prize, beyond sanctions. They have another waiting in the wings.

Of course, nothing will ever happen without a complete change in government.

[malaise]

24. That he accepted a stolen seat on the SC bench already proves he has

neither decency or integrity - he merely wants power to push his agenda.

[Crunchy Frog]

25. If the Dump regime crashes and burns, and it's illegitimacy is clearly established,

then our side, should we attain sufficient power, should appoint a justice to Obama's unfilled seat. If Gorsucks doesn't want to step down, then we appoint a second justice to balance him out.

We need to be as bold about making and following our own rules when we're in power as they are when they're in power.