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rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 04:41 PM Jul 2017

If the Russian lawyer "overstayed" her parole immigration..why had she "not landed" from Moscow yet

So the spin today is she "was allowed" to overstay when her parole immigration ended in January 2016. Yet the email specifically says that they couldn't do the meeting "today" because she hadn't ARRIVED yet FROM Moscow.
I know, petty question considering the enormity of it all...but overstaying here vs flying here with no status/expired status are 2 different stories. No one between June 2016 and now has been able to track down her coming/going between here and Moscow? Was she on commercial or private Russian plane?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-email-text.html
From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:18 AM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential
They can't do today as she hasn't landed yet from Moscow 4pm is great tomorrow.




http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump

The U.S. Attorney’s office in New York confirmed Wednesday to The Hill that it let Veselnitskaya into the country on a grant of immigration parole from October 2015 to early January 2016.

Justice Department and State Department officials could not immediately explain how the Russian lawyer was still in the country in June for the meeting with Trump Jr. and the events in Washington

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If the Russian lawyer "overstayed" her parole immigration..why had she "not landed" from Moscow yet (Original Post) rainbow4321 Jul 2017 OP
From what I saw on Maddow last night... Thomas Hurt Jul 2017 #1
What a co-winky-dink! FSogol Jul 2017 #2
Per the emails, she was in court on the 9th til 3pm, but flew in from Moscow on the 8th rainbow4321 Jul 2017 #3
The Trumpers are trying desperately to claim that Obama/Lynch let her in to set up Trump anneboleyn Jul 2017 #4
Knowing the hard core Trumpers they are covering for the Russians rainbow4321 Jul 2017 #5
Lynch has already denied any involvement, says it was State Dept and Homeland Security wishstar Jul 2017 #7
Shouldn't Schiff have the Russian in a cell by now? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #6

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. From what I saw on Maddow last night...
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 04:55 PM
Jul 2017

she was in fed court that day too. I imagine that was the primary reason she was allowed in, in the first place.

The case that Sessions just swept under the rug with a low ball settlement.

The case that Preet Bharara was prosecuting until he was fired by Trump.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
3. Per the emails, she was in court on the 9th til 3pm, but flew in from Moscow on the 8th
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 05:11 PM
Jul 2017

If her status expired in January, how could she re-enter the US in June?
Nothing has been said about her status being renewed except when it was renewed for a week extension in January, I believe. Most of the articles I've read today are saying she "overstayed" and asking why she was "still in" the US in June.
Where was she between January and June? If the guy wrote in the email that he knew she was unavailable on the 8th because she had not arrived from Moscow yet...how could she be flying in with no paperwork? If the paperwork WAS still good in June and we are not being told that,she wouldn't have been "overstaying", hence no need for the media hype today that she "overstayed" and shouldn't have been here "still in June".

Yet State and Justice Dept are staying mum on this now, refusing comment. They have to know if her papers expired or if they were renewed and when she came/went. Least I would hope so.

I guess if I want to go full tinfoil: was/is there a system in place that is allowing/allowed Russian lobbyists/operatives to bypass having any travel paperwork.

Given that she then went to D.C. days after the meeting, would she have needed any paperwork to show if she boarded a commercial plane to D.C.? Unless she drove there.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
4. The Trumpers are trying desperately to claim that Obama/Lynch let her in to set up Trump
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 05:18 PM
Jul 2017

They are trying to craft an elaborate story that Obama and Lynch allowed this Russian lawyer in to set up a meeting with Trump and co to use a year later as proof of "collusion" after he won the presidency...of course none of that makes any sense if one spends more than three seconds thinking about it.

And I used to think that Alex Jones was fringe. Here we go with the new conspiracy theory.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
5. Knowing the hard core Trumpers they are covering for the Russians
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jul 2017

Because I wouldn't put it past Putin and the others involved in this to figure out a way to get people like her in/out of the US beneath the Obama administration radar. And what better way to cover it up than to make it sound like the Obama admin knew/were involved.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
7. Lynch has already denied any involvement, says it was State Dept and Homeland Security
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 05:40 PM
Jul 2017

who would have been involved in visa and airport protocol. She was very quick to respond to this latest CT from the Trumpster

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