Be advised: They can still repeal/replace Obamacare

[oberliner]

And Trump is pressuring the Republicans hard to come up with something.

The battle is far from over.

The AHCA is alive and on the Senate calendar and can be voted on at any time (and only needs 50 votes to pass).

[juxtaposed]

1. 51 to pass,

[oberliner]

3. They are one vote away

And you can bet they are pulling out all the stops (such as they are) to try to make something happen.

McCain can generally be made to come around to the Republican party line when push comes to shove.

[MFM008]

35. Push just came to shove

I don't think anything changes until McCain leaves office.

[oberliner]

36. McCain can be made to come around

He has said all along he wants to repeal and replace Obamacare.

[MFM008]

37. Not if hes

Deceased.

[SJMULE]

2. I agree technically

and we should still Remain "WOKE". But there is no way McConnell will bring it up again. He does not want to actualy repeal it. Several Senators who voted Yes on repeal and were given cover by McCain DO NOT WANT REPEAL. The weaker Drumpf gets the more they will ignore him

[oberliner]

4. There is this Graham-Cassidy version

That seems to be generating some interest among the Rs.

[HipChick]

5. Agree....he is weak

they will just ignore him..

[lapfog_1]

6. OK, someone needs to find out the facts

I've read many postings here saying that budget reconciliation can only be used once per fiscal year under Senate rules.

They used it on the "skinny bill" and many here praised McCain for voting to bring it to the floor of the Senate (motion to proceed that he voted "yea" on) and, since it did not make the 50 vote (plus VP tie breaker) that bill and no other budget reconciliation bill can be voted on this fiscal year (Sept 30O.

So... what's the truth?

Of course, they can write a new bill and bring to the floor Oct 1 (if the above stmt is fact).

But can someone verify that they can't just bring back the skinny bill or a skeletal bill or whatever and pass it with 50 votes in September?

[oberliner]

7. Please don't rely on a random person's Reddit post

Here is the truth:

The bill itself did not fail. The vote was on an *amendment*. The bill was returned to the Senate calendar.

[pnwmom]

8. Pieces could pass under reconciliation. But not matters unrelated to budget. n/t

[oberliner]

10. The entire AHCA bill could still pass

It's on the Senate calendar. They have not voted on it yet. Only amendments so far.

[pnwmom]

12. Not under reconciliation. They would need 60 votes to pass much of it, just as we needed

when Obamacare was passed.

[emulatorloo]

18. Parliamentarian says they need 60 votes for a fair amt, as pwnmom says below.

They do not have 60 votes.

Yes need to remain vigilant.

[standingtall]

9. I would be shocked if the AHCA doesn't 60

The original Senate bill needed 60 and the AHCA isn't much different. Probably couldn't get 50 anyway.

[oberliner]

11. Rumblings are afoot that they may pass something

Be on the lookout.

[pnwmom]

13. I agree that we can't let our guard down. But they can't pass a whole repeal

unless they get rid of the filibuster, which McConnell has said all along he doesn't want to do.

That's why they've had several attempts to pass partial repeals.

[oberliner]

25. Right

But a partial repeal is still very much on the table.

[tammywammy]

14. Here's a thread on twitter explaining how it can come up again.

The Reddit post is wrong.

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[ecstatic]

20. Thanks. nt

[oberliner]

26. It's funny how many people took a random Reddit user's post so seriously

Thanks for helping to spread the truth.

[WhiteTara]

15. Here's a note of encouragement

The thing is, the Senate can only consider one budget reconciliation bill per topic per year. Of course, if the bill dies in committee and never comes to an official vote, it doesn't count- which is why they've been able to keep hammering away at the issue.

This bill, though, was allowed to come to the Senate floor, because the Republicans thought they'd secured the votes. Collins, Murkowski and the Democrats would vote no, everyone else would vote yes, and Pence would break the tie. And then McCain completely fucked them. And it was almost certainly a calculated move; he voted to allow the bill to come to the floor. Had McCain allowed it to die in committee, McConnell could have come back with yet another repeal bill; but he let it come to a vote, and now they can't consider another budget reconciliation bill for the rest of the fiscal year. The Senate needs 60 votes to pass any kind of healthcare reform now.

So now they're caught between a rock and a hard place. Either they concede defeat on the issue and try again later (causing a big, unpopular stink that could damage elections if they try it before the midterms, or risking losing the slim majority they already have if they wait) or they actually sit down with the democrats like adults and write a halfway decent healthcare bill.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6q1snh/us_senate_healthcare_repeal_bill_fails/dku2gyq/?sh=0243f1ca&st=J5O0AJUD

So McCain may have done us all a great service.

[Motownman78]

21. That Reddit article is not true

All the vote was on Friday morning was an AMENDMENT. the ACHA is still on the Calendar and can be voted on at any time. If the Reps vote to get rid of the fillibuster, it would only require 51 votes to pass.

[WhiteTara]

34. Damn. And I needed to think we might

make it through this quagmire of evil.

[oberliner]

24. Don't take posts from random Reddit users too seriously

The vote was on an amendment - not the bill.

[kairos12]

16. I think they can only do one reconciliation bill every fiscal year. That's why

McCain truly shafted them. If the vote had never come out of committee they could try again. When McCain allowed the vote to go forward he hosed them. Not if the vote has gone to the Senate floor. That is my understanding.

[tammywammy]

17. The skinny bill was an amendment to the House bill not the TrumpCare bill.

It's still on the calendar and can be resurrected.

[oberliner]

23. What they voted down was an amendment

Not the bill.

[Demsrule86]

28. They did vote down the bill.

And if they want to continue they need to get 60 or nuke the filibuster.

[tammywammy]

31. The Senate voted on an amendment to the House bill

https://www.congress.gov/amendment/115th-congress/senate-amendment/667

[Kaleva]

19. A number of Repub Senators have been saying for awhile that AHCA has no chance in the Senate

That's why they didn't even try.

[ck4829]

22. Not Paying

[Demsrule86]

27. They do have to nuke the filibuster first.

[oberliner]

33. No, they don't

They can still pass their reconciliation bill with 51. No bill has been voted on yet (only amendments).

[dubyadiprecession]

29. How can republicans replace Obamacare with something better??

That would be like asking my dog to make me some fudge, when all he is capable of doing is making Shit!
Same with the republican's, they can't do it, and never will!

[TheDebbieDee]

30. Trumpcare can't be voted on as a RECON budget item anymore this fiscal year...

(the fiscal year ends at end of September)

To make any republican healthcare bill law would require 60 Senate votes to pass. At least, this is what I've been led to believe.

[oberliner]

32. Yes, it can

The bill hasn't been voted on yet (only amendments). The bill is still on the calendar.