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highplainsdem

(49,032 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:45 PM Aug 2017

Trump's grandfather, Conway's great-grandfather & Miller's great-grandmother could not speak English

Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:33 AM - Edit history (1)

when they came to the US.

Tweet frosm Jon Cooper, asking people to retweet:




RT if you believe that Stephen Miller, Kellyanne Conway and Donald Trump are all loathsome, hypocritical bigots.



See the image with the tweet for the info about those hypocrites' ancestors.



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Editing to add an excerpt from an article in Politico Magazine today:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/trump-history-of-american-immigration-215464

Large numbers of early immigrants arrived in the United States without English-language skills. Even among many Irish newcomers in the mid-19th century, Gaelic, not English, was standard. Studies of second-generation Germans in Wisconsin in 1910 found that roughly one-quarter spoke only German. In Chicago in the 1920s, most movie theaters in ethnic neighborhoods deployed subtitles, as large numbers of first-generation residents could not understand English.

“I spoke not a word of English when I started school,” remembered Jerry Della Femina, who later became an advertising executive in Manhattan. “But then why should I have? Italian was spoken at home. I lived in a claustrophobically Italian neighborhood, everyone I knew spoke only Italian, so it was natural that I didn’t know English.” Della Femina grew up in Brooklyn—not in the 1920s, but in the 1940s and 1950s.

So Stephen Miller got that wrong, too.
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louis c

(8,652 posts)
1. My Grandmother could only speak Italian from the day she arrived until the day she died
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:55 PM
Aug 2017

Arrived in 1921 died in 1975.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
4. And the only ones bothered by (or even acknowledging) the bigotry/hypocrisy are already anti-Trump.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:14 AM
Aug 2017

Trump won't lose a single supporter because of his hypocrisy and bigotry.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
5. Two of my maternal great grand parents could not speak English.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:19 AM
Aug 2017

My maternal grandfather's line goes all the way back to the original colonies. Which I admit was quite a shock when I first found out. My grandfather died never knowing his heritage, but I was contacted by a person who had researched our family line.

They all were real American's even though they all were all immigrants to the country and only half spoke English on entry.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
6. If Trump's English is any indication
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:26 AM
Aug 2017

He hasn't make the full progression to fluency over the generations.

Maybe that's why he has trouble getting competent help in finding good PR people to covfefe for him.

highplainsdem

(49,032 posts)
7. I believe that all my ancestors on the non-Brit side of my family arrived here not knowing English.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:27 AM
Aug 2017

And I'd guess that was typical of most non-British immigrants in the past.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
11. Why should he change just because he's in the White House?
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:53 AM
Aug 2017

His rantings make Bush, Junior, seem like an Oxford professor, and that used to be considered a task even Dr. Strange, Michael Carbonaro or the Wizard of Id would consider too daunting.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
10. My grandfather arrived here in 1905 or so
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:49 AM
Aug 2017

speaking Hungarian and died in 1949 still not speaking English. He and my grandmother who spoke a heavily-accented English lived in an ethnic neighborhood and dealt with other Hungarian speakers. All their children managed what they couldn't. It was not unusual then.

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