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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:16 PM Aug 2017

It's "Hillary's a crook", "Hillary's a crook", "Hillary's a crook" all over again !!

They don't even need a Brainwashing 101 manual...they think it worked the first time.

"Investigation's a HOAX"
"Investigation's a HOAX"
"Investigation's a HOAX"

How do we combat this ???????

All we need, when this is over, and Dimwit is out, is to have 33% of the population thinking this has all been a hoax.

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It's "Hillary's a crook", "Hillary's a crook", "Hillary's a crook" all over again !! (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 OP
33 % believe Bush found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #1
Yeah. It's hard for people to admit they were duped. underpants Aug 2017 #2
True. But, what seems different to me, is that they are now energized and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #6
I bet that number goes up higher.... Xolodno Aug 2017 #11
50% of Louisiana Republicans NewJeffCT Aug 2017 #18
Fuck them dalton99a Aug 2017 #3
Too bad for them that they probably can't afford to stay in a Trump Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #9
It's the old 1/3 rule NCDem47 Aug 2017 #4
Well said emulatorloo Aug 2017 #5
But now the middle third you mention are like all drunk on Trump moonshine. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #7
Wait until they come out of their hangover! NCDem47 Aug 2017 #14
and that's another topic ! how could they all be up for Hillary on election eve and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #20
They weren't all up for Hillary bearsfootball516 Aug 2017 #23
I looked it up - they did - last on 270. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #24
The two keys were those were the numbers from polls karynnj Aug 2017 #26
Still don't believe it. Late deciders went to Kerry in Fla and he still lost. All I am saying Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #28
Any link for that? Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #27
I don't know that we can counter it, honestly. WIProgressive88 Aug 2017 #8
As for Hillary, it's always been like she had to prove a negative so she Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #12
Hillary Clinton did indeed commit SERIOUS CRIMES Martin Eden Aug 2017 #10
And she won the election !! How fucking shitty must that be !! To actually Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #13
Yes, a crime against all that is pure and American was committed on October 26, 1947 in Chicago. Boomerproud Aug 2017 #15
Such insolence! What nerve! What a nasty woman! - Lock Her Up!!! dalton99a Aug 2017 #16
Yup - these neanderthals still think it's a man's world. Initech Aug 2017 #17
But their racial bigotry trumps their bigotry of women. I remember distinctly - how Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #22
thats all they have...hate. samnsara Aug 2017 #19
that's all they have ever had - but now they have a champion Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #21
Many of them still believe in pizzagate and over half believe Fredo never met with tblue37 Aug 2017 #25

Freethinker65

(10,048 posts)
1. 33 % believe Bush found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:20 PM
Aug 2017

Bush admitted he did not.

Those 33% are lost causes.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. True. But, what seems different to me, is that they are now energized and
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:47 PM
Aug 2017

may cause more problems somehow than the former, more silent minority of nutcases. Trump is adding so much fuel to it, it's obscene.

Xolodno

(6,401 posts)
11. I bet that number goes up higher....
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:04 PM
Aug 2017

...if you include people who believe Saddam transferred his WMD's to Syria right before the war, despite;

1. It was conjecture and no evidence was shown.

2. Saddam knew he was going to lose, makes no sense to give up weapons you could use with devastating results in an insurgency.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
9. Too bad for them that they probably can't afford to stay in a Trump
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:56 PM
Aug 2017

hotel to help him out post-presidency. But, Ivanka may be on the right track. Build a brand for people who want designer wanna be clothes I was in a store yesterday and witnessed my favorite sales person oo-ing and ah-ing with another customer over a rack of clothes that just came in that were Ivanka's. Of course, I made a comment, and now she is not my favorite salesperson and she just huffed "Guess we just can't talk about politics in this country anymore ! " Yes, I am stuck in the heart of red country in TX.

NCDem47

(2,250 posts)
4. It's the old 1/3 rule
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:36 PM
Aug 2017

1/3 on your side
1/3 not on your side and never will be (Trumpsters)
1/3 persuadable middle - where an election is decided

NCDem47

(2,250 posts)
14. Wait until they come out of their hangover!
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:11 PM
Aug 2017

And a certain percentage of the population will. We just need those folks to be in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. and that's another topic ! how could they all be up for Hillary on election eve and
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:32 PM
Aug 2017

mysteriously all vote Dingbat? Statistically, so improbable. Maybe one, maybe two, but not all three. No wonder Trump keeps saying she "stole" the 3 million popular votes ! He ALWAYS has a tell. He ALWAYS accuses his opponent of what HE did himself.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
23. They weren't all up for Hillary
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 10:21 PM
Aug 2017

Most polls showed her up by 1 or 2 points in swing states, but well within the margin of error. Heck, even Ohio had Trump up by a few points in the final polls, same with Florida.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. I looked it up - they did - last on 270.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 10:27 PM
Aug 2017

Last poll from 270 was:
PA 48-44 Hillary
WI 47-40 Hillary
MI 48-42 Hillary
http://www.270towin.com/2016-polls-clinton-trump/
With MOE, probably different, of course. But STILL - so odd they all fell.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
26. The two keys were those were the numbers from polls
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:38 AM
Aug 2017

Taken in the last week. They showed a shift to Trump and note HRC was not at 50 percent. In the exit polls, two things explained the results. Late deciders and those who disliked both, split heavily for Trump.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
28. Still don't believe it. Late deciders went to Kerry in Fla and he still lost. All I am saying
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:00 PM
Aug 2017

really is that it is just too mathematically improbable that all three fell

WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
8. I don't know that we can counter it, honestly.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:56 PM
Aug 2017

The only people still buying what Trump's selling have their hands so far down in the sand that they cannot be reasoned with. Obviously, any rational person who hears Trump's constant shouts of "Hillary's a crook" know that the guy's just trying to change the subject and distract from his own shenanigans, but these people are not rational.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. As for Hillary, it's always been like she had to prove a negative so she
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:10 PM
Aug 2017

just chose to ignore it. But I do think it worked. Hell, I even have the slight impression in the back of my mind. More of an "I don't really know for sure" type feeling. So the people in the middle had to be influenced by the constant meme.

It's from the Rove playbook -- pick your weakness and be the first to project it on your opponent. It's rather brilliant really.

I really had hoped with a new DNC chair that we would be more unified in our messaging. NOT betray our values - just join the 21st century world of media and use it more to our advantage. But, thanks to Trump's daily or hourly antics - most of the country has seen at least one crazy thing he has said or done. Keep it up, Trump !!

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
10. Hillary Clinton did indeed commit SERIOUS CRIMES
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:58 PM
Aug 2017

She was a politically ambitious First Lady who tried to fix our health insurance system instead of fixing the White House drapes for dinner parties. She was married to a very successful Democratic president when the Republicans considered the White House theirs by right, and she refused to dissolve her marriage when the endless Whitewater fishing expedition elicited testimony about a blow job. Then she went on to be elected Senator, serve as Secretary of State, and make a bid to be the first Female Liberal Commander In Chief -- which would be tantamount to murder because so many rightwing heads would literally explode.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. And she won the election !! How fucking shitty must that be !! To actually
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:11 PM
Aug 2017

win and not be president ??? And, to not be on TV every day saying how much it sucked.

Boomerproud

(7,964 posts)
15. Yes, a crime against all that is pure and American was committed on October 26, 1947 in Chicago.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:16 PM
Aug 2017

And she's still here!!!!

Initech

(100,102 posts)
17. Yup - these neanderthals still think it's a man's world.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:19 PM
Aug 2017

Women can't be leaders or otherwise you're an SJW who needs safe spaces, snowflake!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. But their racial bigotry trumps their bigotry of women. I remember distinctly - how
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:41 PM
Aug 2017

they LOVED Hillary when she was running against Obama. It was so startling to me how they changed SO MUCH when she was running against Conald.

tblue37

(65,484 posts)
25. Many of them still believe in pizzagate and over half believe Fredo never met with
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:56 AM
Aug 2017

the Russians or exchanged emails with them, even though he posted the emails himself and appeared on Hannity and admitted doing so!

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-07-18/trump-supporters-dont-believe-donald-trump-jr-met-with-russian-lawyer

A majority of Trump supporters recently polled don't believe Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer – even though he confirmed the meeting.

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