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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, the fired Google engineer immediately went crying to Breitbart
Telling, very telling.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/08/google-employee-fired-diversity-row-considers-legal-action-james-damore
Damore has now said he would likely be pursuing legal action.
I have a right to express my concerns about the terms and conditions of my working environment and to bring up potentially illegal behaviour, which is what my document does, he said in an email reported by the New York Times.
In a further email to the rightwing website Breitbart, he reportedly said: They just fired me for perpetuating gender stereotypes.
B2G
(9,766 posts)I would imagine he's being contacted by every news outlet in the country.
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)Let's see evidence.
B2G
(9,766 posts)He may have, he might have been responding. It just makes sense to me that he's probably being flooded with requests for statements right now. Is that a reach?
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)They are fake news. Yet he contacted them either directly or in response. Telling don't you think?
B2G
(9,766 posts)He also emailed the NYT. What conclusions are to be drawn from that?
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)Caliman73
(11,744 posts)That means that unless there is a specific written agreement between the employee and the company (Union contract or such), then the employer can fire the employee for any reason at all.
Looks like he is trying to paint himself as a whistle blower, except that he was arguing in the same direction that is part of Google's current problems with the State and Feds. Google is being looked into for discriminatory hiring practices against women and people of color. This guy appeared to be agreeing with Google's actual hiring practices while criticizing their stance on diversity in tech.
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)you can't still be a complete dumbass.
Warpy
(111,339 posts)who range from adequate to brilliant in their various, narrow fields. Once they stick a toe outside those fields, you are left hoping they have a keeper somewhere to help them stay out of serious trouble.
I can't despise this dumbass, I know how limited he is. I just with there weren't so many others just like him, making women working around him miserable.
Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)With the men sometimes the misogyny is almost a given, they can't handle the competition and it makes them whiny.
*not all male engineers, doctors etc. They're usually fine if they think they're better than their female fellows, but the second they find out different, out comes the ugly.
Willie Pep
(841 posts)She is a doctor and according to her there is definitely a kind of "bro" culture among some male doctors.
Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)I was bodily shoved out of the way during an anatomy class. Like some guy pushed me away from the dissection table with his girth. Deliberately. Not that he was going to deign to pick a scalpel or anything but he was going to ensure I couldn't see what the prof was showing us.
RogerM
(150 posts)James Damore, the Google employee fired for his anti-diversity manifesto, is (almost certainly) not a victim of a free-speech violation
The First Amendment protects Americans' free-speech rights from being restricted by the government, not their employer.
You don't have a right to use your company's computer system to publish your speech.
"Freedom of speech is the right to freely express an opinion. It is most assuredly not the right to express an opinion with freedom from the consequences."
Even California's pro-worker rules don't appear to protect James Damore, the Google employee who annoyed his colleagues with an anti-diversity manifesto.
http://www.businessinsider.com/james-damore-google-anti-diversity-manifesto-free-speech-2017-8
PSPS
(13,614 posts)The first amendment, as you explain, involves only the actions of the government hindering one's utterances. It has nothing at all to do with anything beyond that. Many people erroneously believe that the first amendment somehow inhibits the ability of a private individual or company, such as facebook, youtube, etc., to control what they contain. It doesn't. If Zuckerberg and his ilk had any decency at all, they wouldn't carry the snuff and hate material they do. But, as far as they're concerned, all that matters is that they can make a profit off it.
He'd be laughed out of court
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Gothmog
(145,558 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,011 posts)Thinks evolutionary psychology makes up for bigoted sexism
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)His memo reads like the family-friendly version of Elliot Rodger's manifesto, relies on that same hand-me-down evo-psych-o'babble, and is predicated on the same lack of objective, peer-reviewed sources to support his, erm, premise.
CincyDem
(6,386 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Speaking of mediocrity being promoted above its level.
"On his LinkedIn profile, Damore lists a PhD, Systems Biology from Harvard in 2013. However, a representative from Harvard tells WIRED that Damore did not complete a PhD. He completed a masters degree in systems biology in 2013."
https://www.wired.com/story/james-damore-author-google-memo-might-sue/
His lawsuit will be laughed out of court.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)A lawsuit. And did this to provoke the actions.
What an ass.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Whaaaaaah! They won't let me be a sexist ass! It's all THEIR fault!