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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:02 PM Aug 2017

WA Post: Money laundering -- Why the Trump Org Could be Trump's Undoing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-the-trump-organization-could-be-trumps-undoing/2017/08/08/82de9980-7c4c-11e7-a669-b400c5c7e1cc_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.21e0b039e2f7

But few laundries can match the efficiency of an eight-figure luxury condominium in New York or San Francisco or South Florida. It works like this: The holder of a great deal of tainted money sets up a shell company, funds it through the shadow banking system, then uses the shell to purchase exclusive property. Voila! No one knows where the money came from or who the buyer might be. But when the condo is eventually resold, the proceeds emerge from the spin cycle as clean as Eliot Ness.

SNIP

At the Trump International, on the southwest corner of Central Park, the Times noted that more than half of all condo sales were to hidden buyers. A more recent study by USA Today found that the number of veiled transactions involving the Trump Organization took a big jump as the boss man’s political fortunes rose. Since Trump captured the Republican nomination last summer, the share of hidden buyers of his branded properties has climbed to 70 percent, the newspaper found.

The president may be waking to the possibility that Mueller will drag this unseemly marketplace into the glare of public scrutiny. In a revealing interview with the Times last month, Trump signaled that he expects investigators to find some transactions that will undercut his claims to do no business with Russia. “I mean, it’s possible there’s a condo or something,” he said. “I sell a lot of condo units, and somebody from Russia buys a condo, who knows?”

Exactly. Who knows? Our president has been operating for years in an industry notorious for blurred lines between honest and dishonest money. Whether he and his family have managed to walk this tightrope without slipping is something only time, and Mueller, will tell.
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WA Post: Money laundering -- Why the Trump Org Could be Trump's Undoing (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2017 OP
Now why did Jeff Sessions settle the suit against Prevezon for pennies on the dollar? Botany Aug 2017 #1
Ah, yes, thanks for reminder. riversedge Aug 2017 #28
Money laundering is where I think that they will get trump Gothmog Aug 2017 #2
"Since Trump captured the Republican nomination last summer . . ." gratuitous Aug 2017 #3
No. The WA Post has written about Trump & money laundering before. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #4
Oh yeah I remember it well gratuitous Aug 2017 #8
Washington Post, was all over the Hillary email story, you can't expect them to do 2 things at once MiddleClass Aug 2017 #20
IT'S MUELLER TIME! ffr Aug 2017 #5
The beauty of this is that it was a crime committed in the State of New York Mr. Ected Aug 2017 #6
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #10
Pretty sure the republicans Rural_Progressive Aug 2017 #11
Why was Preet Bharara fired again? aeromanKC Aug 2017 #13
I can't wait. ancianita Aug 2017 #17
he has been laundering money for the Russian mob for decades Skittles Aug 2017 #7
"he has been laundering money for the Russian mob for decades " how do we know this Kathy M Aug 2017 #12
FYI Botany Aug 2017 #16
The vagina monument. Now this is irony MiddleClass Aug 2017 #22
Every time a mobster bought one of his condos for cash, dirty money was being laundered. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #19
The greatest money launderer that God ever created. dalton99a Aug 2017 #9
Not really. Much of zentrum Aug 2017 #15
Hope Mueller zentrum Aug 2017 #14
This isn't the FBI's first rodeo in dealing with international mobsters. They've learned. nt ancianita Aug 2017 #18
I guess I feel zentrum Aug 2017 #30
That is exactly what he has been doing... kentuck Aug 2017 #21
The Don of money laundering MiddleClass Aug 2017 #24
RICO, forfeiture, bankruptcy, jail L. Coyote Aug 2017 #23
I'll take Income Tax Evasion for 20 to life, Alex Mr. Ected Aug 2017 #25
40 counts L. Coyote Aug 2017 #33
Russians, Chinese, cartel members, mafia members. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #26
And if NY state gets in on the action... mgardener Aug 2017 #27
As obvious as this seems we have to remember these are big money people underpants Aug 2017 #29
Filthy rich, eh Donald? Blue Owl Aug 2017 #31
Just re-read that article and replace "trump" with any other politician's name. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #32

Botany

(70,516 posts)
1. Now why did Jeff Sessions settle the suit against Prevezon for pennies on the dollar?
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:15 PM
Aug 2017

House Democrats want to know why a major Russian money-laundering case was abruptly settled


Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Wednesday asking why the Department of Justice settled a major money-laundering case involving a real-estate company owned by the son of a powerful Russian government official whose lawyer met with Donald Trump Jr. last year.

Trump Jr., the president's eldest son, on Tuesday tweeted an email chain from June 2016 in which he entertained accepting damaging information from a "Russian government attorney" about Hillary Clinton as part of the Kremlin's support for his father's campaign.

That attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, represents the family of Pyotr Katsyv, the former vice governor of the Moscow region, whose son, Denis, owns the real-estate company Prevezon. The DOJ had been investigating whether Prevezon laundered millions of dollars through New York City real estate when the case was unexpectedly settled two days before going to trial in May.

"Last summer, Donald Trump Jr. met with a Kremlin-connected attorney in an attempt to obtain information 'that would incriminate Hillary,'" the Democrats wrote, citing the emails he published. "Earlier this year, on May 12, 2017, the Department of Justice made an abrupt decision to settle a money laundering case being handled by that same attorney in the Southern District of New York.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-was-russian-money-laundering-case-dismissed-house-dems-2017-7

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. "Since Trump captured the Republican nomination last summer . . ."
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:24 PM
Aug 2017

So, all these veiled transactions and hidden buyers were going on right under the Washington Post's nose during the general election campaign, but they've only just noticed it now that Trump's been in office for six months and things haven't turned out all that well?

Thanks for . . . well, not quite nothing, but pretty goddammed little, Washington Post.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Oh yeah I remember it well
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:56 PM
Aug 2017

Yeah, the Post was out there shouting it from the rooftops from June to November last year, about how all this suspicious activity was going on, and totally forcing the Trump campaign to respond and explain.

Wait. No, I didn't get kicked in the head by a horse. I don't remember the Post doing that when it might have mattered in the 2016 election.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
20. Washington Post, was all over the Hillary email story, you can't expect them to do 2 things at once
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
Aug 2017

That would be multitasking, and taking precious attention from James Comey's scolding of Hillary.

Where do you think the Washington Post is a national newspaper or something.

Obvious, but

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
6. The beauty of this is that it was a crime committed in the State of New York
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:41 PM
Aug 2017

And therefore Trump and his associates are subject to a state lawsuit for racketeering.

Trump's pardon power is circumscribed by federal law. He cannot pardon himself, or Mr. Trump, Jr., or his brother Eric, or his daughter Ivanka, or her husband Jared, or anyone else that is eventually ensnared by NYAG Eric Schneidermann.

No matter how much he riles up his base and attempts to confound and confuse them with his own brand of fake news and lies, the judicial system pays no heed. Evidence of a crime is evidence of a crime, even if the National Enquirer regularly disputes it.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
11. Pretty sure the republicans
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:59 PM
Aug 2017

are big fans of states' rights so they'll undoubtably be fine with this.....sure they will.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
7. he has been laundering money for the Russian mob for decades
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:50 PM
Aug 2017

and he had the GALL to complain about Hillary's emails

WTF

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
12. "he has been laundering money for the Russian mob for decades " how do we know this
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 05:10 PM
Aug 2017

for sure / reality ..........

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. Not really. Much of
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 05:34 PM
Aug 2017

...the new mega real estate changes you're seeing in all major cities world wide are with laundered money. Money from China, Arabia, and of course Russia. And probably the USA too. These people see shell company real estate as a cash register in the sky. Major way for oligarchs in developing economies to move and hide their money from their own governments and from bank regulation. And they often get tax breaks along the way.

Heard on NPR that the corruption of Russians Oligarchs was immense and Putin really went after them in his climb to power. So they said to him what will it take to call you off and he said: Half. They give 50% of all their laundry to him and he protects them. The report said it's made him perhaps the richest man alive. Into the trillion category.

Trump is chump change compared.



zentrum

(9,865 posts)
14. Hope Mueller
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 05:22 PM
Aug 2017

...has 24 security around him and his family and his staff and their family. At this point, it's the Russian mob who doesn't want any more scrutiny.

Hope Schneiderman has security too.He's been on this for months.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
25. I'll take Income Tax Evasion for 20 to life, Alex
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 06:41 PM
Aug 2017

I'm willing to bet he didn't report all his income on any of that laundered money.

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
27. And if NY state gets in on the action...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 06:59 PM
Aug 2017

He can't be pardoned.
Or his kids.
Who knew he was such a fashion icon.....
His hair will match his new clothes, orange.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
29. As obvious as this seems we have to remember these are big money people
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 07:09 PM
Aug 2017

and they don't like their system being screwed up. Think "too big to sue" and the Riggs bank.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
32. Just re-read that article and replace "trump" with any other politician's name.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:20 PM
Aug 2017

We've become de-sensitized to Trump's scandals. We need to remember to be shocked by his criminal exploits.

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