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Can drumpf even attack NK?????? (Original Post) Takket Aug 2017 OP
The short answer is he can. Renew Deal Aug 2017 #1
No. Keefer Aug 2017 #2
That oughta more than do it. dchill Aug 2017 #3
We will see. Keefer Aug 2017 #4
Please, no! dchill Aug 2017 #7
Then yes. Renew Deal Aug 2017 #5
My "No" was in reply to this part: Keefer Aug 2017 #6
Oh. Makes sense. Renew Deal Aug 2017 #11
I thought so! Keefer Aug 2017 #12
Trump can get impeached bdamomma Aug 2017 #8
The last formal "Declaration of War" was for WWII... PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #9
The War Powers Act Keefer Aug 2017 #10
The War Powers Act is a passed bill and not an amendment to the Constitution. PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #13
"The extent of the President's war making ability is not a fully settled constitutional question." Keefer Aug 2017 #14
Since a Federal Judge ruled against enforcing some of its provisions "until then" maybe it's not... PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #15
So he still has 60 days. Keefer Aug 2017 #16
Does the AUMF from the Sgent Aug 2017 #17
We never end the Korean War, we are in an armistice. CK_John Aug 2017 #18
This. n/t yagotme Aug 2017 #19
only on Twitter Skittles Aug 2017 #20

Renew Deal

(81,868 posts)
1. The short answer is he can.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:38 PM
Aug 2017

Think about all of the previous US attacks and the previous declarations of war.

He would have to ask for permission after like 60 days. I think Obama avoided asking for permission to get involved in Syria and Congress didn't do anything about it.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
8. Trump can get impeached
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:54 PM
Aug 2017

for suggesting to nuke another country, or putting Guam in jeopardy.

https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2017/8/9


I have this posted in Videos please watch if able.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
9. The last formal "Declaration of War" was for WWII...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:57 PM
Aug 2017

Since then there have Congressional "authorizations for the use of force" and UN Resolutions authorizing the use of force.

The President wasn't suppose to be able to start a war themself, but as commander in chief could repel attacks.

From the Wikipedia article on the issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

James Madison reported that in the Federal Convention of 1787, the phrase "make war" was changed to "declare war" in order to leave to the Executive the power to repel sudden attacks but not to commence war without the explicit approval of Congress.

The contemporary state of affairs seems to be that a President can bomb pretty much any country that isn't likely
to shoot back in a significant fashion. So the question now is can and will Congress stop him?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
13. The War Powers Act is a passed bill and not an amendment to the Constitution.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:29 PM
Aug 2017

President's have questioned its Constitutionality even when complying with its provisions.

The extent of the President's war making ability is not a fully settled constitutional question.

Keefer

(713 posts)
14. "The extent of the President's war making ability is not a fully settled constitutional question."
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:32 PM
Aug 2017

So then, until it's "settled", I guess we have us a quandary.

Until then, it looks like it's the law of the land.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
15. Since a Federal Judge ruled against enforcing some of its provisions "until then" maybe it's not...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:43 PM
Aug 2017

Clinton's War Powers Upheld
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/june99/dismiss09.htm

A federal judge yesterday dismissed a lawsuit filed by 26 members of Congress who contended that President Clinton has had no legal authority to continue U.S. participation in the airstrikes against Yugoslavia.

The bipartisan lawsuit sought to enforce timetables in the largely ignored Vietnam-era War Powers Act, which would have required Clinton to obtain congressional approval or terminate U.S. involvement in Kosovo by May 25, two months after the start of the action.


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