Rebel yell: Southern "nationalists" again crying 'secede'

[Ken Burch]

Last edited Sat Aug 12, 2017, 01:33 AM - Edit history (1)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rebel-yell-southern-nationalists-again-crying-secede/ar-AApTlMz?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Don't really want to post excerpts of this in the thread. The headline is bad enough.

(on edit-decided to put the word "nationalists" in quotes.)

[Turbineguy]

1. It's OK. They'll get to keep

all the Federal agencies and military bases.

That way it will work!

[mcar]

2. Give us Democrats here the chance to get out first

[Blue_Tires]

3. Fuck 'em

we see this same shit every couple of years and it isn't going to happen...

[Thomas Hurt]

4. Thing is even if they did secede....

they still have to deal with the federal gov't to treat with the US..........that is if their economies survived the exodus of real Americans, all the loss of the military bases and all collateral jobs that go with it.

Lockheed still wants to do business with the DoD? No facilities in the state's that seceded.

Texas might survive as a christian version of Saudi Arabia, oil, God and guns, they could even have mutaween and a theocracy like the fascists have always wanted.

[rurallib]

5. So I am guessing Trump or Pence would just let them go

which would make Putin very happy.

[Bettie]

10. It would reduce payroll!

Think of all the federal employees and buildings that wouldn't be on the books anymore!

Idiots.

[flotsam]

6. There is no such thing as a southern nationalist.

There was never a southern nation. There were traitors who attempted to create one but they were defeated. They were granted amnesty-this may have been a mistake.

[markpkessinger]

17. "Southern Seditionists" is more like it! n/t

[atreides1]

29. Southern Nationalists, Southern Seditionists

No matter what they may or not call themselves, they're traitors, just like those before them, nothing more!!!

[Ken Burch]

22. Not my phrase. I pasted in the headline from the link.

I agree with you.

[Solly Mack]

7. No. The South lost. If they want their own country, they can buy a sinking island somewhere.

The entire country would be the better for it.

I'm a southerner. That's not bashing - just the facts.

[marybourg]

8. Will they promise to take tRump and Pence with them?

[Different Drummer]

9. On behalf of all decent Southerners (I'm in Georgia)...

I apologize for the "secede" crowd.

[Sanity Claws]

11. Good riddance

All you democrats stuck down there, come north or go west where you will be welcomed.

[Lifelong Protester]

12. We'd take 'em

If that happened, we have two houses and would take a good Democratic family in.

[Ford_Prefect]

13. On behalf of the majority of NC voters and citizens: We tried to make them read the Constitution

and they objected to doing the homework required for writing law in the USA.

The secessionists live in rebel fantasy world where the great war was not lost and the south will rise again. Somehow they forget they were born as Americans under one law, just as the rest of us were. That same law says all of the USA belongs to ALL of the citizens all at once. It is that simple. You derive your status as a citizen from the whole of the country. And, in this case, the whole is so very much more than simply the sum of the parts.

[gratuitous]

14. That's a little weird

Didn't they just get everything they ever wanted out of the 2016 election? Now they want to run away, at least until they get hungry or it gets too dark.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. I have friends in those states, and.... they don't deserve that shit.

That said, there's a part of me that thinks... Jesus, that would solve so many problems for us, up here.

We'd have a government in DC that would be solidly progressive, able to actually pass legislation helping people and fixing shit on everything from health care to cannabis. We could stop fighting over stuff like gay marriage or whether or women controlling their own reproductive systems.

[Weekend Warrior]

18. We are working hard down here.

It can be tough. The portrayal of the "southern image" alone works against us. A considerable amount of pretty non-political people in the south puff their chests out and vote republican because of a childish and uneducated reaction to attacks on the south. Some who vote democratic even have the same visceral reaction to "northeast elitists" as republicans.

I truly appreciate how you state your thoughts while not simply dismissing the south as a whole.

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Thanks.

Seriously, you guys have my sympathies. I know there are progressives working hard down there.

And some of the biggest RW assholes I've ever come across have been in blue states.

[Voltaire2]

16. I think it is inevitable.

[Weekend Warrior]

19. Please explain.

As far as I can tell it's not even close to possible. To the point that succession isn't even on the radar.

[Voltaire2]

24. The cultural divide is both regional and insurmountable.

Eventually we will figure that out and either slaughter each other until one side surrenders or decide instead to peaceably separate.

I vote for peaceful separation.

[Weekend Warrior]

25. I really don't see how that is much of an explanation for your claim.

If it is.....

[Voltaire2]

28. Take a look at Charlottesville.

I'm just saying that we have irreconcilable differences.

[GulfCoast66]

23. You forgot the sarcasm thingy.

Because otherwise you are seriously misinformed about the situation here in the South. Outside of about 3 states the republicans advantage is artifical due to gerrymandering. No way in hell even 10 percent of Floridians would go for that shit. Most of the republicans voters are on SS and Medicare!

Have a nice evening.

[roamer65]

21. I'd be for letting them go on one condition.

Absolutely NO immigration to the new Canadian confederation, unless you pass a political litmus test.

[cwydro]

26. It ain't just the south dude.

Hate to break that to you.

But we've not had a good south hating thread in a while. Good on ya.

[AJT]

27. Don't let the US flag hit you in the ass on the way out...