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(7,768 posts)PCIntern
(25,577 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)JoeStuckInOH
(544 posts)It's one thing to have Nukes. NK definitely has nukes. They also have ICBMs (in testing phases).
It's entirely another to have a nuclear warhead miniaturized to the point of being able to be carried as a payload on an ICBM.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)Kim Jong Un is either a troll or the biggest dumbass on earth.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)Not if our eyes in the sky can see every move they make.
But Kim is always full of little surprises like this.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)They always pull stunts like this to get attention with the end game of a UN negotiation giving them aid/food.
Everyone should just ignore them.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)we will vaporize him. Kim's "legacy" is that he will be amongst the several million killed in the worst catastrophe in the history of the world.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)WWII had around 60 million dead, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population (est. 2.3 billion).
That would be around 225 million of our current 7.5 billion.
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)Just read how he just returned early to D.C. "from his vacation".
You know damn well he didn't return because of the Nazi terrorist attack...
Doubt there are nuke bunkers at the golf resort. Have all the Trump klan returned/arrived in DC?
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)From what I have read, they have not demonstrated the ability to successfully hit the US with an ICBM, anyway. If they could, the safest place would probably be in the sky on AF One.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)....the complex was built under 2,000 feet of granite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_Mountain_Complex
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)First, there is no proof that NK can shrink a nuke to fit it on a missile. This is something that took the US 12 years to achieve using the smartest people on the planet and hundreeds of millions of dollars to achieve. And dozens of nuclear tests.
Secondly, there is no proof that they have got a re-entry vehicle for a nuclear bomb. This also took 10 years, the smartest people on earth, hundreds of millions of dollars, and dozens of re-entry missile tests. Re-entry ain't easy, in fact it is very, very difficult. No suitable re-entry vehicle, no boom at the end.
NK is not going to launch a nuclear missile anywhere. It would gaurentee, guarentee their destruction.
If you want to worry, worry about NK's thousands of good old fashioned artillery pieces that have been lined up along the DMZ for 60 years. Now those can reach 20 million South Koreans with just a pull of a lanyard.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)They did set off their 1st nuke 11 years ago. But you are right a untested nose cone/re-entry vehicle will be iffy.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Pakistan has nuclear bombs yes. But like NK they do NOT have the capability to launch one atop a very powerful rocket.
India does have that capability.
The only nations who have nuclear ICBMs are US, Russia, France, Israel, India, and China. Its harder than you think to launch a large payload into space, fly it halfway around the world, re-enter into the atmosphere without coming apart ala Columbia, and have it land where you want it to.
Not even Great Britain has these weapons, they use US ICBMs and SLBMs (Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles).
Not to mention the difference in orders of magnitude between smallish fission weapons like NK has, and thermonuclear bombs.
Its all just bluster. The US has 6,000 thermonuclear weapons we can land on any part of the Earth's surface in 40 minutes. And the only way the US would launch one is if somebody launched one first.
NK has the capability to kill a lot of people in South Korea very, very quickly. But it won't be by using nuclear weapons. It will be with 155mm artillery pieces that can reach into Seoul right now.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Infrastructure
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)IRBMs don't actually reach space altitude so no re-entry vehicle needed. If NK is dtermined to strike something with a nuke they can put it on a bomber and fly it there.
To be classified as an ICBM it needs to travel at least 5,500 miles.