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mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 05:53 PM Aug 2017

Do not equate Jefferson & Washington with Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis etc. you Mother-F er....

Washington and Jefferson developed and founded a new country..............Those named above & others were traitors and protectors of the Slave economy.

Traitors have no right to have a statue on American land.

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Do not equate Jefferson & Washington with Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis etc. you Mother-F er.... (Original Post) mrmpa Aug 2017 OP
Exactly. Then again, he's a traitor and a racist himself. So in his mind, they're heroes. kysrsoze Aug 2017 #1
They may have MFM008 Aug 2017 #2
he's an evil ignorant asshole. spanone Aug 2017 #3
CNN is letting him have it for that one especially. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #4
Washington and Jefferson were each elected president of the United States gratuitous Aug 2017 #5
Precisely. Davis and Lee led a violent rebellion against the government of the United States. VOX Aug 2017 #6
Not to mention THEY LOST TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #9
Fucking A Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #7
But to Trump, Jeff Davis and Lee tried to found their own slave owning sinkingfeeling Aug 2017 #8

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Washington and Jefferson were each elected president of the United States
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 06:05 PM
Aug 2017

Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee took up arms against the United States. That's why public space in the United States should afforded to Washington and Jefferson, and denied to Davis and Lee. If you must put up monuments or memorials to Davis or Lee, put them on public ground in their country, the Confederate States of America - that is, if you can find any such place, because it doesn't exist on any map I own.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
6. Precisely. Davis and Lee led a violent rebellion against the government of the United States.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 06:05 PM
Aug 2017

Each man is a complex historical figure, but "the cause" for which they fought has to be one of the worst in world history. It cannot be separated from the institution of slavery and the wealthy planter class who wanted to maintain their "property" (if one owned at least 20 slaves, he didn't have to fight).

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
7. Fucking A
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 06:20 PM
Aug 2017

While they both owned slaves, one group tried to build a country while having qualms about the institution and the other tried to tear the country apart to protect the institution.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
8. But to Trump, Jeff Davis and Lee tried to found their own slave owning
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:40 PM
Aug 2017

country and those mean old Yankees wouldn't let them. So, they're all equal.

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