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highplainsdem

(49,044 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 08:18 PM Aug 2017

David Cay Johnston warning again tonight that Trump wants to suspend the Constitution

and become a dictator.

Talking with Joy Reid on MSNBC just now.

Johnston mentioned the military chiefs breaking with Trump's racism as a positive sign that they would not go along with his ambitions.

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David Cay Johnston warning again tonight that Trump wants to suspend the Constitution (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2017 OP
Used to be a Nazi couldn't do that Blue Owl Aug 2017 #1
.............. bdamomma Aug 2017 #2
Trump steals the election and renders the world asunder RussBLib Aug 2017 #3
Opposition to Trump may well not be a coup. gordianot Aug 2017 #4
Of course he does Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #5
Since there is no provision in the Constitution to suspend its provisions procon Aug 2017 #6
According to Encyclopedia.com... RussBLib Aug 2017 #8
To put the matter simply, THAT would be treason struggle4progress Aug 2017 #7

RussBLib

(9,044 posts)
3. Trump steals the election and renders the world asunder
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 08:24 PM
Aug 2017

While we watch and wait and hope for justice.

It looks more and more like we have to get this madman out of the office and the sooner the better.

The GOP seems to be slowly opening it's eyes, the fucking cowards.

gordianot

(15,247 posts)
4. Opposition to Trump may well not be a coup.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 08:32 PM
Aug 2017

In order to suspend the Constitution Trump would at some point need Governmental or military support. I doubt his Klan-Nazi militia would last very long against those empowered by oath of office.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Since there is no provision in the Constitution to suspend its provisions
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 08:51 PM
Aug 2017

and carry out some illegal, extrajudicial act, how would that work?

This is fiction. The only remote option Trump would have is to pull off a coup. US forces don't seem likely to take that step, but Trump is popular with crazy military militia groups and his Nazi fan boys. They wouldn't get very far, so there is no point in starting something that is doomed from the beginning.

RussBLib

(9,044 posts)
8. According to Encyclopedia.com...
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:19 PM
Aug 2017

...and I have no reason to doubt this so far...I also would not put ANYthing past this orange malignancy infecting the White House.

West's Encyclopedia of American Law
COPYRIGHT 2005 The Gale Group, Inc.

MARTIAL LAW

The exercise of government and control by military authorities over the civilian population of a designated territory.

Martial law is an extreme and rare measure used to control society during war or periods of civil unrest or chaos. According to the Supreme Court, the term martial law carries no precise meaning (Duncan v. Kahanamoku, 327 U.S. 304, 66 S. Ct. 606, 90 L. Ed. 688 [1946]). However, most declarations of martial law have some common features. Generally, the institution of martial law contemplates some use of military force. To a varying extent, depending on the martial law order, government military personnel have the authority to make and enforce civil and criminal laws. Certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of habeas corpus may be suspended (this writ allows persons who are unlawfully imprisoned to gain freedom through a court proceeding).

In the United States, martial law has been instituted on the national level only once, during the Civil War, and on a regional level only once, during world war ii. Otherwise, it has been limited to the states. Uprisings, political protests, labor strikes, and riots have, at various times, caused several state governors to declare some measure of martial law.

Martial law on the national level may be declared by Congress or the president. Under Article I, Section 8, Clause 15, of the Constitution, Congress has the power "[t]o provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel Invasions." Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, of the Constitution declares that "[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States." Neither constitutional provision includes a direct reference to martial law. However, the Supreme Court has interpreted both to allow the declaration of martial law by the president or Congress. On the state level, a governor may declare martial law within her or his own state. The power to do so usually is granted in the state constitution.

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struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
7. To put the matter simply, THAT would be treason
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 08:54 PM
Aug 2017

He has no such authority; he has no political support for it; and he does not have the material support to effect it

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