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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone ever seen a non-white person flying the Stars and Bars?
That was my question to a Facebook friend who kept insisting it only represented Southern, not white, pride. He has one on the bumper of his truck.
I never have. Have you?
dubyadiprecession
(5,725 posts)They also fly neo-Nazi flags as well.
And I've lived in the south 47 years
Norbert
(6,041 posts)but be advised Photoshop is a very good and sophisticated program.
dalton99a
(81,637 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)the first national flag of the CSA
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_%281861-1863%29.svg
gordianot
(15,247 posts)Much like the Jewish kid a few years back who was a member of a Nazi group. You do have to give credit the tiki Nazi's and Klan were pasty.
lastlib
(23,323 posts)but he's an idiot anyway......
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)nm
yardwork
(61,715 posts)If the Confederate flag was really just about southern heritage, then it would be equally admired by blacks and whites. It clearly and obviously is not.
recovering_democrat
(224 posts)Grew up and lived in Atlanta GA, area 60+ years. Yes. Many times.
Never saw US flag and Confederate flag on same vehicle. Georgians seem to choose. Lol.
brewens
(13,631 posts)in the bed if his truck. The confederate flag was much bigger than his American flag. That should get him slapped by about anyone that cares about either flag.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)There are always a few exceptions.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)How about them also having a full set of teeth; anyone seen that?
Orrex
(63,234 posts)Maybe when it doesn't cost $1000 for a root canal and crown, then maybe we can joke about people unfortunate enough to suffer poor oral health.
"A toothbrush and toothpaste cost $5.00," someone will immediately and laughingly recite.
And that's true and terrific, but how exactly does a toothbrush fix a broken tooth, or an abscess resulting from a poorly-seated filling?
Let's all laugh at the woman who got a mastectomy! She must be a stupid, ignorant racist!
Let's chuckle at the guy who lost three fingers in an accident! What a racist dumbass!
It's exactly the same thing, and it's a fucked up thing to make fun of.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)I guess I am just not compassionate at all and my virtue signalling skills are non-existent.
Orrex
(63,234 posts)If it's an issue over which people have little or no control, then don't mock them for it.
If it's an issue of non-hurtful behavior inherent in their culture or place of origin, them don't mock them for it.
If it's something that doesn't affect you except aesthetically, then don't mock them for it.
As to the current example, these people are celebrating racism in a way that is directly hurtful to many millions of people. Whether they have deliberately chosen it (as is the case of my idiot fellow Pennsylvanians waving their Confederate participation trophies), or if it's a part of their culture that is unmistakably hurtful (as is the case for southerners waving their Confederate participation trophies), then it's fair game for mockery.
If it's something inherent in the person (ethnicity, stature, gender identity) or if it's something over which they have minimal control (their upbringing, their income level, health) then mocking them for it is not greatly consistent with progressive ideals.
YMMV, of course.
Siwsan
(26,308 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,916 posts)but apparently Condaleeza Rice doesn't think the Confederate monuments should be removed.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)although Omarosa and Ben Carson may have it on their private vehicles.
marybourg
(12,642 posts)some years ago, there were Hispanic skinheads. They were stunned to learn from the newspaper reporter that their ethnic group was usually among the targets of skinheads.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Not just fly it, but goes around in full Confederate regalia.
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Paladin
(28,277 posts)bluepen
(620 posts)In some of the more rural parts of SC, driving from the coast to the upstate. They're usually on houses but one is actually on a pole in the front yard. When I first saw this, about 20 years ago, I was shocked to see who was sitting on the front porch and/or going to or from a car and the front door. But then I saw some on TV, interviewed in Columbia before the flag came down after the church shooting in Charleston. It's bizarre but they're out there.
demosincebirth
(12,544 posts)Haven't hung it since Trump has been in office - and won't.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)demosincebirth
(12,544 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Fly the stars-and-bars all you want. Never mind me.
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)Live in a very segregated area
At times the black and Hispanic communities were played off against each other...you heard stories about the folks who lived on the south side. Sure folks on the South side heard stories about the blacks on the North side
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,937 posts)And CSA Colonel's Uniform (very tattered and fragile) but they were my dad's great grandfather's.
So a black woman "owns" two family heirlooms but the man who held/wore them used to tease his black great grandchildren when they were being brats/stupid that they were acting like Confederates.
Aha - that's why my dad used to tell us to stop acting like Republicans and threatening to drop us off at the White House to live with Reagan if we didn't stop acting stupid.
I would never fly that flag. The man it belonged to was ashamed of how he treated his adopted country (Irish immigrant). Shameful.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)drray23
(7,638 posts)flag is a black guy. Ive seen it in the news before.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)Voltaire2
(13,213 posts)No. I haven't seen that.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)1. I saw a black man wearing a shirt with a huge rebel flag back when I was in high school... But he was homeless, mentally ill and probably didn't have any better choices from the clothing bin...
2. Outside of the airport in Atlanta in 1996 I ran into a bunch of cartoonish Japanese tourists (cameras around the neck and everything) in town for the Olympics... Naturally, all 20 of them were wearing "THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN" confederate caps from some cheesy gift shop or gas station...
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Rides a motorcycle with a vest on. The back is decorated with the Sons of Confederate Veterans patch with the rebel flag in the middle. In my neighborhood in liberal Maryland. Figure that out.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)But I've seen pictures.
I've also seen female AnCaps . . . rare, but they exist.
LexVegas
(6,115 posts)sarisataka
(18,821 posts)The Confederate battle flag. The Stars and Bars was the first CSA national flag-