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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTina Fey meant well...but it didn't work...but this was not the time to say or do anything...
People of privilege like her(and, as another white person, like myself, I guess) may have the luxury of "sheet-caking", but those in the line of fire don't.
The alt-reich will not simply vanish if the rest of us ignore them.
I stand with all of those in historically oppressed communities who find this to be no laughing matter.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,914 posts)still_one
(92,454 posts)still_one
(92,454 posts)metaphor, and each bite of that cake was the feeling of helplessness many Americans feel as racism, bigotry, and sexism is legitimized. The climax of that statement was when Michael Che, an African American, grabbed a piece of that cake. The American flag decorating that cake was completely obliterated, symbolizing the 70 years of civil rights progress being whittled away.
How many of those that are upset by this are among the 47% who didn't even bother to vote in 2016?
How many of those that are upset by this are among the self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)The key problem was the line where she said to NOT go out and protest.
That piece might have worked if that line had been left out.
Yes, people feel hopeless, but the only way to create hope is to fight on for whatever hope means to you.
still_one
(92,454 posts)OP, but what seems to be popping up in all these threads directing hyperbole toward Tina Fey and the SNL writers, instead of as you pointed out here, and other threads, actually taking action
The writers were making a statement. Some looked at it favorably, and others didn't.
A week or so ago threads were popping left and right, regarding anti-choice Democrats. I sure don't want to revisit that here for sure, except to make the point that at most there maybe 3 Democrats that fit into that category, and the way those threads were popping up, one would have the impression that it was more of an issue than it is.
That is the same feeling with these Tina Fey/SNL threads. Tine Fey or the SNL writers don't make policy, elected officials do
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)It made it less funny to me. Maybe bc it touched a sore spot. I am beyond frustrated with people who don't vote or just always sit on the sidelines.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,755 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,914 posts)I clearly did not get the metaphor, although I saw that she was destroying the flag on the cake and understood that was important.
I'm not at all upset by it, merely baffled. It simply didn't work for me. Probably the people it worked best for are exactly those who are most upset by it.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)unproductive to me at this point in time (the alt-right is attacking each other at present). I am seeing this here and in a few other spots (like twitter). To me this seems to be one of the worst moves to make -- to start attacking someone like Fey instead of focusing on Trump's comments and Charlottesville. Why are there multiple threads about this topic when the other issues are vastly more important than a brief comedy skit by a former snl cast member?!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)n/t.
still_one
(92,454 posts)Fey and the SNL writers as straw men, while there are real forces within the country trying to legitimize racism, sexism, and bigotry, and trying to reverse 70+ plus years of Civil Rights progress
LWolf
(46,179 posts)it's just not the right time to try to defuse the situation with humor. There's nothing funny about hate, about fascism, or about violence. The counter-protest in Boston was a better response, imo. I hope many thousands show up to peacefully counter protest every single hate rally held across the nation.
Hell, maybe the counter-protesters should bring some sheet cakes and graciously feed the hate crowd, in addition to carrying great songs, chanting great chants, singing great songs, and generally drowning and crowding them out. Let them eat cake.
To be honest, I was thinking of all the interesting pictures and words that could be iced onto those cakes; THAT might be funny, but, again, the best probably wouldn't defuse the hate.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,900 posts)My impression was that she was actually ripping on "cake-eating" and white privilege, a point that seems to be getting missed. Now, if she actually intended that people stay home rather than protest (if the point was that the alt-righters should be ignored like naughty children), I very strongly disagree with that. The Boston event was a great example of how the good folks can and should show that they massively outnumber the bad ones. I think the Nazis and their ilk absolutely need to be confronted; they're too dangerous to ignore. But I took the cake as satirical.
pnwmom
(109,009 posts)pnwmom
(109,009 posts)jpak
(41,760 posts)Tina rocked it.