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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen they say the Confederacy wasn't about slavery and oppression, show them this:
I got this from reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstTrump/comments/6uzazi/when_they_say_the_confederacy_wasnt_about_slavery/?st=j6m5gvcx&sh=1adedf71
Chipper Chat
(9,678 posts)He has "Trump eyes"
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)And a very bad combover too.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)And this is supposed to be "superior"?
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Kinda like "what me worry" or something.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)that the people who often talk about being part of a "superior race", actually look like the scum on the bottom of the barrel.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Indeed.
roomtomove
(217 posts)incredible resemblance!!!!!!
dalton99a
(81,488 posts)Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)Has a statue in the US Capitol Rotunda!!!
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)I doubt it.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)His statue has no mention of his white supremacy or secession from the United States
Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)Google it if you still are skeptical...
Moostache
(9,895 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)A nice pointy white hood. Don't forget the eye holes.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Several southern states' articles of succession say something like that, although not quite as direct.
calimary
(81,267 posts)My companion term for that would be "The War of Southern Racist Pig-Headedness." Simplified, perhaps, to "The War of Southern Wrongness."
Wrongness | Define Wrongness at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/wrongness
Wrongness definition, not in accordance with what is morally right or good: a wrong deed. See more.
inanna
(3,547 posts)in any debate. It shows exactly what the confederacy was about. They just do not know how to respond to this FACT.
Recommended.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)By this I mean whitewashing history of their traitors and build monuments to them.. Just read his bio:
https://www.aoc.gov/art/national-statuary-hall-collection/alexander-hamilton-stephens
Aviation Pro
(12,167 posts)The sallow faced fuck.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)the whole concept of slavery is based on the slavers believing themselves to be superior to their slaves.
And confederate symbols are used by people who have no confederate history and there are many statues in states that were not part of the confederacy.
Louis1895
(768 posts)I like having academic sources for speeches such as this one since Reddit sometimes publishes "fake" news.
I found this:
https://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/~ras2777/amgov/stephens.html
Lots memorable quotes in the two speeches reproduced there, such as
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)The Texas statement of secession and declaration of causes written February 2, 1861, makes clear its citizens wished to then and forever hold slaves in bondage and uphold the institution of slavery.
It reads in part: Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people..... She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time.
Every confederate was in it for slavery. Every confederate was in it for the selling of human beings, for the chattle slavery of men, women, and children. Every goddam confederate was a goddam white mother f***ing supremacist. That is the "sacred heritage" of that barbaric and bestial culture. Had a refined veneer, but scratch a "southern gentleman" and you see his ugliness oozing out like
pus from an infected wound.
Chew on that, Bobby Lee!
End of story.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)They teach that the Civil War was the "great war of northern aggression" STILL. They down play slavery at every turn and instead use the code words we all know..."states rights", "self-determination" and other such nonsense...
Ask these sons-of-bitches that persist in this deluded state if their would have still been a war if the south has decreed slavery a moral hazard and made it illegal.
byronius
(7,394 posts)So glad he lost. So glad. Grateful.
And I hope they lose again, and may they someday lose forever.
Raven123
(4,842 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Superior to?
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Enough to make one believe in reincarnation.
procon
(15,805 posts)He touched every one of the 7 classic Propaganda Techniques. Remarkably, he did completely unawares and crafted The Big Lie that convinced millions of seemingly normal people that one human being was entitled to own another human being based on nothing more than a preference of color.
Orrex
(63,212 posts)In most cases, they've never heard of it.
They tend to dismiss it either as "taken out of context" or "not representative of the actual views of the Confederacy."
Yes, they've had a lot of practice at dismissing inconvenient truths...
calimary
(81,267 posts)Aristus
(66,369 posts)Doing what Jackie Earl Haley does best: exuding an air of quiet menace.
calimary
(81,267 posts)moondust
(19,981 posts)Guess I never considered the possibility that the Nazis may have borrowed some of their ideology from the old U.S. Confederates.