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DFW

(54,379 posts)
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 10:10 AM Aug 2017

Bye-Bye USA, see ya next time I'm in the neighborhood

My annual summer Odyssey is done with. I left Washington last night, changed planes in Paris this morning and am now back "home" in the Rheinland.

When I got my luggage at the Düsseldorf airport, I thought there was something wrong with the airport lighting, as it seemed to be turned up way too intensely, but it was just my wife's beautiful smile greeting me outside the baggage claim area. It was nice to visit, but it's nice to be back.


*on edit--I meant to post this in the Lounge. Still a little jet-lagged. Sorry, my bad!

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Bye-Bye USA, see ya next time I'm in the neighborhood (Original Post) DFW Aug 2017 OP
Wish I could leave this country too! BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #1
It ain't as simple as all that DFW Aug 2017 #2
I agree Sanity Claws Aug 2017 #3
It is difficult, KatyMan Aug 2017 #5
If it's Ireland, you might want to consider buying a property soon, as house prices are on the rise OnDoutside Aug 2017 #16
unfortunately we're not looking to move until KatyMan Aug 2017 #17
Best of luck with whatever you decide ! OnDoutside Aug 2017 #20
Would you have any suggestions for a good website to view properties for sale? mahina Aug 2017 #29
Daft.ie KatyMan Aug 2017 #31
Mahalo KatyMan! mahina Aug 2017 #46
Hi, yes, the two biggest are OnDoutside Aug 2017 #40
Thank you! mahina Aug 2017 #45
Without her, I would probably never have made the move DFW Aug 2017 #6
The poster's statement was a wish, not a plan. whathehell Aug 2017 #18
There are those who sometimes turn their wishes into plans, and plans into action. DFW Aug 2017 #24
That's true whathehell Aug 2017 #34
Not in the slightest intended as a scolding DFW Aug 2017 #37
Maybe not, whathehell Aug 2017 #44
Glad You Had A Safe Trip Home ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #4
To quote a very underemployed line...... DFW Aug 2017 #7
Let's hope that the current occupant of the White House Sanity Claws Aug 2017 #8
Without his chauffeur-drivern car DFW Aug 2017 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #10
The government sometimes asks us to help them out DFW Aug 2017 #11
You make me sorry I missed that. ;-) Hekate Aug 2017 #30
You didn't miss much DFW Aug 2017 #36
We're sending Herr Drumpf back where his grandparents came from IronLionZion Aug 2017 #12
Nein. NEIN. NEIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!!!!! DFW Aug 2017 #23
Or as french and belgian (Walloon - Brussel) syringis Aug 2017 #33
Yes, Europe has its share DFW Aug 2017 #35
Trump syringis Aug 2017 #43
You can ask Scotland if they'll share joint custody IronLionZion Aug 2017 #47
I don't want Scotland to sever relations with Germany over this n/t DFW Aug 2017 #48
hope we're still here when you return... spanone Aug 2017 #13
Glad you made it back and had a smile to greet you. LittleGirl Aug 2017 #14
nice to know you made it back safely. wish we could join you!! niyad Aug 2017 #15
The door's open! n/t DFW Aug 2017 #38
Glad you had a good trip back, DFW! R B Garr Aug 2017 #19
The family is scattered to the four winds again DFW Aug 2017 #39
We need a little happiness all over DU. I consider your gaff a happy accident for us all! southerncrone Aug 2017 #21
Hope you enjoyed your time here and best wishes to you my friend! steve2470 Aug 2017 #22
You know where to find us! n/t DFW Aug 2017 #41
Aloha DFW, thanks for checking in. mahina Aug 2017 #25
Mahalo Mahina! DFW Aug 2017 #27
Wilkommen Pachamama Aug 2017 #26
Think of it this way DFW Aug 2017 #28
Good way of looking at it... Pachamama Aug 2017 #49
keep us posted! ucrdem Aug 2017 #32
Will do! n/t DFW Aug 2017 #42

DFW

(54,379 posts)
2. It ain't as simple as all that
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 10:14 AM
Aug 2017

Moving to another country involves a LOT more than packing your suitcase and heading to the airport with a one-way ticket.

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
3. I agree
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 10:26 AM
Aug 2017

I have given thought to moving to another country. Besides the preparation required to leave and set up home elsewhere, there are the cultural differences that become evident immediately. You don't get all the jokes and references that are part of everyday conversation. Even if you know the language and your parents may be from there, you would always be an outsider, a "blow-in." Having your spouse be a native of that other country would help tremendously but, if you don't, living abroad would be very, very hard.

KatyMan

(4,190 posts)
5. It is difficult,
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 10:30 AM
Aug 2017

we've lived in the UK twice and Ireland once. The thing people don't understand is that you still have to get up and go to work in the morning, pay bills, your boss might be a jerk or a good guy, your neighbor a creep or a big help, just like here in the US. People are pretty much people in everyday life everywhere we've lived. That said, we plan on retiring to Ireland or Mexico in 3 or 4 years, so the expat bug hasn't left us!

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
16. If it's Ireland, you might want to consider buying a property soon, as house prices are on the rise
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 12:21 PM
Aug 2017

again.

KatyMan

(4,190 posts)
17. unfortunately we're not looking to move until
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 12:50 PM
Aug 2017

2020 at the earliest, and are frankly leaning toward Mexico, but keeping an eye on Ireland. Our issue with Ireland is that, even though it's our most favorite place we've ever been let alone lived in, it's very far from our daughters, and travel back and forth would be expensive. Mexico would allow us to travel to Ireland for longish vacations once a year
Thanks for the tip!

mahina

(17,656 posts)
29. Would you have any suggestions for a good website to view properties for sale?
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:38 PM
Aug 2017

I'd like to look in Galway.

Thanks very much!

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
40. Hi, yes, the two biggest are
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:59 PM
Aug 2017

www.myhome.ie
www.daft.ie

Most of the smaller realtors would advertise on these.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
6. Without her, I would probably never have made the move
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 10:35 AM
Aug 2017

As it was, I commuted for a long time. To get a residence and work permit in Germany was easy enough because I was married to a local, had a secure, decades-long job I could do anywhere, and spoke the local language fluently. Plus, I was willing to put up with the higher taxes (except for the double taxation) with the zero benefits I get from paying them, as well as their intrusive bureaucracy. It's said that here, the State knew what brand of toothpaste everyone used BEFORE there was an internet.

The language is a non-negotiable must. You can no more live here in Düsseldorf knowing only English than you can live in Dallas speaking only German.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
24. There are those who sometimes turn their wishes into plans, and plans into action.
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:28 PM
Aug 2017

I have no knowledge that the poster was not one of them.

"Some men go just where they want. Some men never go."
--Bob Seger, "Shame on the Moon"

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
34. That's true
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:33 PM
Aug 2017

but you might have asked him before responding with something that sounded like a scolding......Just sayin'.


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DFW

(54,379 posts)
37. Not in the slightest intended as a scolding
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:52 PM
Aug 2017

Merely a reminder that while it's an easy thing to toss out as a notion, it's a complicated thing to put into practice (with plenty of hidden downsides that I didn't even get into). No more than that.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
44. Maybe not,
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 06:12 PM
Aug 2017

but again, you could have asked...One needs no "reminder" for something one has no plan for in the first place.

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
8. Let's hope that the current occupant of the White House
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 11:07 AM
Aug 2017

does not say the same when he finally leaves/resigns/is pushed out.

Response to DFW (Original post)

DFW

(54,379 posts)
11. The government sometimes asks us to help them out
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 11:25 AM
Aug 2017

But I don't work for them.

I do have quite a few friends here on DU after over 10 years, all of whom are aware of my situation.

That is quite an unorthodox introduction you've chosen for a first post.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
33. Or as french and belgian (Walloon - Brussel)
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:28 PM
Aug 2017

Non merci, sans façon

Il y a déjà bien assez de cinglés ici

Wilders, Le Pen, Farrage, Orban (un monument celui-là !),...

DFW

(54,379 posts)
35. Yes, Europe has its share
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:47 PM
Aug 2017

Orban is particularly bad, and his Polish counterpart isn't much better

But with USA being headed (nominally, at least) by someone SO completely unqualified for the position is without precedent.

Orban est peut-être un monument, mais Trump est un Chernobyl pour nous.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
14. Glad you made it back and had a smile to greet you.
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 12:07 PM
Aug 2017

Spouse was in AZ last week for a few days and flew back to Basel. He left on Thursday morning early and didn't get home until Saturday around 1pm CET. The last leg of his flight from Frankfurt to Zurich got cancelled and unfortunately, that was after traveling/awake for 28 hrs. They put him up in a hotel but he had no change of clothes in his carry on or a razor. He finally realized what I've been saying...traveling abroad in coach is hell on earth. Good luck with the jet lag.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
19. Glad you had a good trip back, DFW!
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 01:10 PM
Aug 2017

Hope you get some rest for the jet lag. Enjoy the last bit of summer with your family!

DFW

(54,379 posts)
39. The family is scattered to the four winds again
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:59 PM
Aug 2017

The next one I will see of the "next" generation won't even be one of my daughters, but my nephew, who will passing through France on his way back to the States from northern Nigeria. Since he is flaying Air France the whole way from Abuja or Lagos (I don't know which) to Washington, he is taking advantage of a chance to stop off in Paris. Since I run down to Paris several times a month anyway, I will time a visit so I can spend some time with him while he's there. He speaks no French, but he speaks Arabic, which will at least l3t him communicate with a lot of people who live there.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
21. We need a little happiness all over DU. I consider your gaff a happy accident for us all!
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:04 PM
Aug 2017

Glad you are back w/family.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
22. Hope you enjoyed your time here and best wishes to you my friend!
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:16 PM
Aug 2017

One day I will visit you and your family in Deutschland

DFW

(54,379 posts)
27. Mahalo Mahina!
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:36 PM
Aug 2017

I miss your part of the world, too.

I was on the Big Island regularly (mostly Waikoloa) when my younger daughter went to school there (in Waimea, up the Kohala Mountain), but haven't been back in over ten years. Aloha!

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
26. Wilkommen
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:36 PM
Aug 2017

Still in Germany right now ending my summer odyssey as well...but I am in the reverse mode....I go back this week because my teenagers high school starts for fall and I am back for them.....will return in a few months...

DFW

(54,379 posts)
28. Think of it this way
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 04:38 PM
Aug 2017

We are both doing our part in keeping the population of both countries stable

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