25% of American voters say they'll never stop supporting Trump no matter what he does or doesn't do

[beachjustice]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/trump-approvers-never-stop-approving-poll/index.html

Unfortunately, the only way to solve such a slavish commitment to a single person, party, or governing ideology is via therapy. Time to start diverting focus away from the hope of winning over Trump supporters, and toward convincing independents, rallying opposition to Republicans behind single candidates before each election, and getting more democrats registered and to voting booths in battleground states. Otherwise we're going further down the path of a single-party Republican state.

[uponit7771]

1. If he felt empathy towards a brown skinned person they'd drop him in a second

[marylandblue]

2. That's about right

That's where Nixon and Bush II were at their lowest points. Some people have an authoritarian personality and will blindly follow their leader to hell.

[RKP5637]

4. Exactly!!! n/t

[Wellstone ruled]

6. Agree,

this number would vary between 22-25% of what was commonly called the Hard Core GOP.

[raven mad]

32. It's truly sad that 25% of registered voters are too ingrained in GOP bullcrap

to even remember how to think.

[3catwoman3]

37. Perhaps they never...

...knew how.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Same was true about Nixon at the end of the Watergate scandal.

Even after there was incontrovertible proof that he was in on the cover-up from the beginning and had been lying about the whole thing for two years, he still had 25% behind him at the time he resigned. Some people just dig themselves in and their minds can't be changed for anything.

[FLPanhandle]

5. I live in a deep red area

I know many Trump supporters among friends, family, and neighbors.

Confederate statues, Nazis, racism don't mean squat to them.

They are sticking with Trump because they still believe he is working to get them jobs and good paying jobs at that.

Everything else is meaningless to them.

Eventually, they may see he can't deliver on the economic front, then, and only then, will they desert.

[JenniferJuniper]

9. How can they not see he's incapable of

getting anything done?

Are they only watching Fox News?

[FLPanhandle]

17. So far he's the only one promising the return of good paying jobs

They will believe until someone can switch their trust. Every other topic (even if popular here on DU) is just noise.

The Democrats better have good jobs message next time or they will lose again. Statues, refugees, etc are not winning election strategies.

[JenniferJuniper]

22. Blind trust in the white guy no matter what

is what it sounds like to me.

He can't deliver and he won't deliver. If they are stupid or racist or sexist enough to cling to this anti-American thug they can go fuck themselves. There is no hope for them no matter what the Democrats say or do.

[emulatorloo]

26. Dems can't win over this 20 to 25%. They are the deadenders who supported Nixon and Bush 2 to

the very end. There are lots of people who are persuadable but this group have dug their hills in like they always do: the Republican can do no wrong, everything bad is a Lieberal DemocratPlot(tm)

[dhol82]

28. I have one 'friend' whom I questioned about his news sources

He admitted that he has finally dropped his NYTimes subscription and stopped watching CNN because they made him sick.
He only watches Fox and Breitbart. That's the 'real' news.
I cannot talk to him. Any real news I mention he rebuts with his 'knowledge.'
Wonder how he will deal with Breitbart now that Bannon has come back with vengeance?

[LenaBaby61]

15. And even then ...

When this economy IS tRumputin's economy and things really start to slow down and turn into a recession in 2018, many of those folks you know will believe his lies when he of course will blame Pres. Obama for HIS staggering economy.

Some folks are just plain ignorant and on top of that, racist unfortunately, and they'll believe their president's LIES, especially when it involves the "black guy."

[AlexSFCA]

20. that's a cover

because when he doesn't deliver jobs and may even wreck the economy, they will still be supporting him blaming obama and confress for everything. You will be surprised how many people are closeted racists and sympathizers. Trump has the most loyal supporters because their support is not based on policies but on animalistic race impulses.

[Orrex]

34. You must be my neighbor

That Trump-uber-alles sentiment runs thick around here.

During one exchange, I asked a Trump supporter how she'll feel when Trump comes after her social security after he's through gutting Obamacare.

"That'll never happen" she blindly insisted.

"Of course it will," I said. "He wants to pull every last cent out of the safety net."

"Even if he does that," she conceded, "I trust he'll be doing it for the right reason."

In other words, even if he starves her to death, she'll still trust him. That is full-on cult mentality. These people have abandoned the capacity to care for themselves, and they're proud of it.

[Hoyt]

36. Sadly, one of the ways he is working at getting them jobs is eliminating minority "competition."

Racism means a lot to the white wingers I know.

[Sneederbunk]

7. And we need to keep an eye on these people.

[still_one]

8. These are the same 25-30% that believe President Obama is not an American, and is of the Muslim

faith.

That will not change, and you are correct, there is absolutely no point in wasting time to try and win over these people

Many of them are racist, bigots, and sexists, and frankly there is no place for them in the Democratic party

[Scoopster]

10. Oh yeah?

What happens when he comes for your guns, like those idiots claimed Obama would do?

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. These are the same people on the low end of the test curve if you know what I mean.

The sort of people that spell nazi natzi.

[dalton99a]

30. +1

[Mike Nelson]

12. Those are the people...

...who want to Make America White Again. The media always downplays their number... it's small, but bigger than most people think. They don't feel like they can state their beliefs, but feel more comfortable with Trump. Deplorable.

[Iliyah]

13. When they join us in the soup line,

and lose the little they have. Oh wait, they will just blame us, Obama, Hillary and Soros.

[BigmanPigman]

14. This is because they don't want to admit they were wrong about him.

Just like their Fuhrer, their ego gets in the way of rational thinking.

[steve2470]

16. Not even therapy would do it

If someone is THAT delusional, as in almost psychotic levels of delusion or religious extremist delusion.... therapy won't work. Only something that completely shatters them would work, and even then it might not work.

[Blue_Tires]

18. Oh yeah? Let Trump start grabbing their guns...

and get back to me...

[spanone]

19. yea, well, fuck them.

[Azathoth]

21. It's the female Trumpers who are the worst

So who are the most hardcore groups of Trump backers? Women who approve of Trump are most likely to say they will never change their minds: 72% of female Trump approvers say they will never strip their support, vs. only 54% of male Trump approvers.

[Grammy23]

23. It would make an interesting study to see what it is about him they admire.

What exactly do they think about his multiple marriages, his remarks about women, etc? Do they secretly try to imagine themselves living a life of luxury? Do they ever wonder what life with him as their spouse would be like? Do they really epect him to succeeed as a leader, given his first 6-8 months in office? Is what we've seen in the first months of his presidency what they expected?

[dalton99a]

27. Probably his huge airplane

Deplorables were mightily impressed by that gold faucet shit during the campaign

[politicat]

24. 24% still supported Richard Nixon at resignation.

I take that to be the floor of approval. They're the same people who remain devoted Penn State fans, or Paula Deen fans, or refused to walk away from a church despite their own child's abuse.

I agree that it takes therapy -- there's deep denial and cognitive dissonance, plus a whole bunch of other unhealthy coping and cognitive strategies at play -- but for the people whose allegiance and identity do not allow them to recognize the fault they're condoning, therapy isn't likely to help.

I'd much rather motivate the half of the population who didn't vote.

[ck4829]

25. Kick

[alcibiades_mystery]

29. Everybody says that in advance of the collapse

And hell, even Hitler had something like 25% support with German cities in ruin and the Russians closing in.

This number will erode at the first major effects of the coming recession. And make no mistake: it's coming. As soon as the veneer of a promised "Trump economy" crumbles, the whole structure will collapse.

[joeybee12]

31. About 25% of Americans are criminally insane

This proves it.

[Zambero]

33. Sounds about right

Indeed, these die hard 5th Avenue loyalists would allow themselves to be shot down by Trump and still be in the tank for him. This figure is close to Bush 43's low water mark after a series of second term disasters topped off by the financial meltdown. Trump certainly has the capability to disillusion 75% of this country, and if he continues to conduct himself in the same manner as in recent weeks, he'll get there eventually.

[Funtatlaguy]

35. I see them every day.

Walk thru any mall, Walmart, sporting event.
They are the extremely uneducated, or the extremely wealthy, or the extremely bigoted.

[dalton99a]

38. +1

[alcibiades_mystery]

39. Trump's legitimacy crisis is located not in the 25% who will never abandon him, but in the 35%+

who will never support him under any circumstances, period.

Trump has absolutely and irrevocably lost large swaths of the country, especially in the big urban areas. Millions of people won't even bother listening to a word he says anymore. We are in the midst of a legitimacy crisis that is unprecedented in American history, outside, perhaps of the Civil War. While the media is weirdly obsessed with the 25% die-hard Trumpers, they are missing the real story. A third of the country has abandoned the Executive Branch altogether.

[Funtatlaguy]

40. Ask a Trump supporter this one question.

Do you think Trump is a good person?
That one stumps them.
They are used to saying that he's a good businessman, bucks the establishment, is a problem solver, etc.

But, nobody calls him a good person or a good role model. They know that he is not.
That's the one thing that I like to stick it to them with.
Remember how important it was to them that Bill Clinton "wasn't a good person".

[Greybnk48]

41. The same type of people who supported George Wallace,

Joe McCarthy,etc. We will always have crazy people.

[Orsino]

42. What they say may not matter.

Just indicates they aren't willing to be seen abandoning him yet.

If they're truly Trump fans, they know that abandoning people is just what he does.

[wellst0nev0ter]

43. After all these years

After Obama rose from a relatively unknown state senator from Chicago's South Side to current ex-president, the 27% Crazification Factor still holds strong.

http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

[steve2470]

44. and out of those, 9% support Nazis

The source is on a thread here at DU.

eta: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9498267