Didn't The Russians Go Broke In Afghanistan?.....

[global1]

Is Putin using Trump to have the same thing happen to the U.S.?

[fierywoman]

1. Yup. And didn't we create the Taliban to counter the Russians?

[Xolodno]

4. We didn't create the Taliban...

...but we sure as hell aided, supplied and helped them. All because of the "Cold War". We were so enamored about sticking it to the Soviet Union, we never stopped to think, should we help these guys out?

[fierywoman]

5. talk about blowback, hmm?!?!?

[Xolodno]

2. You know, I didn't think about it that way....and I should have.

Afghanistan for all intents and purposes, not a nation, but an alliance of tribal groups who trade loyalty like the stock market. We may be doubling down on failure.

[Rhiannon12866]

3. Not only that, but President Carter recalled our ambassador and boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympics

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan marked yet another low point in U.S.-Russian relations. And it was viewed as an unwinnable war.

[CountAllVotes]

6. The Real War (Ken Kesey)

Time to remember this valuable piece of writing by the late Ken Kesey ...

>&gt Nov. 12, 2001 --This is it, raw, no spelling corrections. --kb)

by Ken Kesey

I could have written this better on 9-11-'01, the day it was happening -- if I could have written.

Everything was so clear that day, so unencumbered by theories and opinions, by thought, even. It just was. All just newborn images, ripped fresh from that monsterous pair of thighs thrust smoking into the morning sunshine. All just amatuer cameras allowing us to witness the developing drama in sweeping handheld seizures. All just muffled mikes recording murmered gasps....

Now, more than a week has passed. The cameras are in the grips of professionals, and the microphones are in the hands of the media. Bush has just finished his big talk to Congress and the men in suits are telling us what the men in uniforms are going to do to the men in turbins if they don't turn over the men in hiding. The talk was planned to prepare us for war. It's going to get messy, everyone agrees. It's going to last for years and probably decades, everybody ruefully conceeds. Nothing will ever be the same, everybody eventually declares.

Then why does it all sound so familiar? So cozy and comfortable? Was it the row after row of dark blue suits, broken only by grim clusters of highranking uniforms all drizzling ribbons and medals? If everything has changed (as we all knew that it had on that first day) why does it all wear the same old outfits and say the same old words?

Because we are talking not just about war, this time, but about the war above the war: the Real War. This war has already been been waged, and it's not between the US and the Taliban, or between the Moslems and the Isralies or any of the familiar forces, but between the ancient gutwrenching bonebreaking fleshslashing way things have always been and the timerous and fragile way things might begin to be. Could begin to be. Must begin to be, if our lives and our children's lives are ever, someday, in the upheaving future, to know honest peace.

https://worldnewstrust.com/the-real-war-ken-kesey

Be sure to read the entire thing.

[Zorro]

7. There's a reason Afghanistan is called "The Graveyard of Empires"

[Doug the Dem]

8. EVERYONE Goes Broke in Afghanistan

It ain't called "The Graveyard of Empires" for nothing!