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Video at link
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New video has surfaced that shows a man drawing a gun and opening fire at the neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville on August 12th. The man was reportedly taken into custody this morning, but many are asking why police didnt do anything at the time
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)How the Nazis were allowed to push back against the police and the cops just stepped back.
But I will not defend the reckless guy with the flame thrower, we have a few crazies that we shouldn't glorify, no matter how pissed off people get.
obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)Another one drew one on a black antifa
Who was protecting an old man counter protesting. This was the young man with the "flame thrower" -- who sprayed aerosol and lit the spray to chase the Nazi with the gun and his friends away from him. The Nazi apologists keep calling that a "handmade flame thrower." The photo of this usually crops the old man out, to show the evil antifa attacking the poor Nazi fuck.
Forget the CPD -- they couldn't handle this. ASk why the VSP and VANG did little, and allowed the counter protesters to be beat up -- you have elderly clergy, Quakers, and soccer moms saying the antifa saved their lives that day.
People cannot be expected to be beaten and have guns aimed at them without fighting back, or protecting someone being victimized.
FlightRN
(194 posts)These people are making me mad with their ignorance. The only reason Corey Long even had a can of spray paint to DEFEND himself and his elderly charge with, was because the Nazis were throwing them at their heads.
Some of these remarks are just like what the RWers are spewing.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)Or if he just pointed it at somebody and yelled "Bang, you're dead!"
Flaming aerosol can propellant might make good theater, but it doesn't last long enough to be super dangerous. It's just super stupid.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,408 posts)The one I saw clearly recorded a gun discharging.
And why the disparaging of the Corey Long's actions? Dude did what he had to do at the time, and it turned out to be remarkable and iconic.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)It wasn't clear.
sweetloukillbot
(11,062 posts)He walks past, turns around and goes to take a shot, but doesn't have a bullet in the chamber. He then lowers the gun, chambers a round, yells "hey n**r" and fires.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)I couldn't tell.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)He definitely fired. No doubt.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Warpy
(111,332 posts)He'll likely claim he was firing blanks and it will be difficult to find the round if he wasn't.
obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)So there is at least that.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)And, they take that seriously there, as per a friend there whose brother is a cop.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)Sure as shootin'
superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)To his front left. Clearly startled by something sudden and loud.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)When I was 12. By the time I turned 13, they weren't so scary anymore, so I stopped playing with them.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)Later on, I was one of the kids who discovered chemistry and blew shit up.
I'd be dangerous if I had any ambition. Luckily for the rest of the world, I don't.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)I punctured the bottom of the can with a nail, let the propellant escape, kept the alcohol and lacquer in the can. Started a fire, and put the can in it. Once the alcohol started to boil, it ignited coming out of the puncture at the bottom of the can and the thing took off like a rocket down the boulevard, careening of the curves, the cars, the palm trees...
What a wild ride that was.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)and then shoot flames from a large deodorant can under the door into the room.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)once he realizes there are witnesses who are not assholes like him. You can tell he has no idea what he's doing, he first attempted to fire the gun without a bullet in the chamber, and can't aim for shit.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/901572207079555073
obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)Another one drew one on a black antifa
Who was protecting an old man counter protesting. This was the young man with the "flame thrower" -- who sprayed aerosol and lit the spray to chase the Nazi with the gun and his friends away from him. The Nazi apologists keep calling that a "handmade flame thrower." The photo of this usually crops the old man out, to show the evil antifa attacking the poor Nazi fuck. The Nazi cowards ran away.
Forget the CPD -- they couldn't handle this. ASk why the VSP and VANG did little, and allowed the counter protesters to be beat up -- you have elderly clergy, Quakers, and soccer moms saying the antifa saved tehir lives that day.
People should not be criticized for protecting themselves and others being attacked by Nazis. I am really getting exhausted with how people are not getting this.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)with the approach of the police at that rally. If they would have kept the sides apart even the car rammer may not have worked himself into a tizzy..
superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)Any advice ?
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)but I doubt it was partisan. Just ill advised policing.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Fucking disgraceful
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Flamethrower guy pointing the flames at the base of the stairs is very problematic.
obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)Another one drew one on a black antifa
Who was protecting an old man counter protesting. This was the young man with the "flame thrower" -- who sprayed aerosol and lit the spray to chase the Nazi with the gun and his friends away from him. The Nazi apologists keep calling that a "handmade flame thrower." The photo of this usually crops the old man out, to show the evil antifa attacking the poor Nazi fuck. NOT the guy in the video upthread -- it was a group he made retreat up teh steps.
Forget the CPD -- they couldn't handle this. ASk why the VSP and VANG did little, and allowed the counter protesters to be beat up -- you have elderly clergy, Quakers, and soccer moms saying the antifa saved tehir lives that day. They were heroes, and I am getting really exhausted with people calling him stupid or a criminal TOO.
People ahve a right to defend themselves against these Nazis IN ANY WAY against violence, and they have a right to protect those being attacked and victimized by these Nazis.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)...but the action is obscured because someone is standing in the way. It appears that the person with the spray can is being confronted by a White Supremacist verbally (white shirt, black backpack, umbrella). That White Supremacist is sprayed with whatever it is, the White Supremacist pushes the guy with the spray can, and he walks away. He's leaving the scene. The White Supremacist with the gun isn't involved yet.
Then the spray is lit on fire and pointed in the direction of the stairs and the guy with the gun approaches the person with the lit spray can with his gun, and then fires as the guy on the stairs uses his flag pole to swat the lit spray can away.
The incident in the tape does not look like self-defense or defense of others with a lit spray can.
The guy with the spray can may have used it to defend himself in another incident, but it doesn't look that way in this incident.
I agree the police should have been in there keeping the peace and protecting the public.
lame54
(35,317 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)ever, ever, ever again.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)Who was protecting an old man counter protesting. This was the young man with the "flame thrower" -- who sprayed aerosol and lit the spray to chase the Nazi with the gun and his friends away from him. The Nazi apologists keep calling that a "handmade flame thrower." The photo of this usually crops the old man out, to show the evil antifa attacking the poor Nazi fuck. NOT the guy in the video upthread -- it was a group he made retreat up teh steps.
Forget the CPD -- they couldn't handle this. ASk why the VSP and VANG did little, and allowed the counter protesters to be beat up -- you have elderly clergy, Quakers, and soccer moms saying the antifa saved tehir lives that day. They were heroes, and I am getting really exhausted with people calling him stupid or a criminal TOO.
People ahve a right to defend themselves against these Nazis IN ANY WAY against violence, and they have a right to protect those being attacked and victimized by these Nazis.
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)Cause he pointed that thing right at the guy who was, what, 10-15 feet away? Seems with all those people someone would have been hit with live ammo.
obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)obamanut2012
(26,114 posts)Who was protecting an old man counter protesting. This was the young man with the "flame thrower" -- who sprayed aerosol and lit the spray to chase the Nazi with the gun and his friends away from him. The Nazi apologists keep calling that a "handmade flame thrower." The photo of this usually crops the old man out, to show the evil antifa attacking the poor Nazi fuck.
Forget the CPD -- they couldn't handle this. ASk why the VSP and VANG did little, and allowed the counter protesters to be beat up -- you have elderly clergy, Quakers, and soccer moms saying the antifa saved tehir lives that day.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)nothing, of course, will happen to this gun toting-shooting POS, guaranteed. Hell if they didn't arrest him then, the cops just stood around, then this POS will walk with a slap on the wrist...how do I know, he's not a POC. Now if this had been a black man, firing back at the nazis, he would be dead. That's equality in ameriKKKa. And white privilege and entitlement on full display. Fuck the charlottsville police...they just stood around when all the white rioting, shooting and violence went on.