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Evidence from notes taken off of Paul Manaforts cell from the infamous meetings with Russians at Trump Tower has RNC written near the word donations.
NBC News reported:
Paul Manaforts notes from a controversial Trump Tower meeting with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign included the word donations, near a reference to the Republican National Committee, two sources briefed on the evidence told NBC News.
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Manaforts notes, typed on a smart phone and described by one briefed source as cryptic, were turned over to the House and Senate intelligence committees and to Special Counsel Robert Mueller. They contained the words donations, and RNC in close proximity, the sources said.
If the Republican Party did accept donations from a foreign individual, those donations would be illegal. The bigger picture is that the Russia scandal could be much larger than the Trump campaign. The RNC, and by extension, the Republican Party could have colluded with or taken money from the Russians. The Russians being involved with the Republican Party would explain why party leadership has not condemned Trump for his refusal to stand up to Russia. It would also explain why Mitch McConnell wouldnt issue a joint statement with President Obama during the 2016 campaign.
Republicans in Congress cant be trusted to investigate the Russia scandal if the RNC took any donations from Russians. Should this turn out to be true, an independent investigation will be needed immediately into the Russia scandal. Reince Priebus and his RNC allies getting high profile White House jobs make a lot more sense now.
The Russia scandal is more than Trump. The Russians may have bought themselves a US political party. PoliticsUSA.com
Sitting here stunned, mouth gaping.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)Could help explain their desire to cover up for Trump/Russia because it may lead back to them..... Wasn't there also a report that information from the DNC hack wound up being used in some congressional campaigns too?
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Nice of them to finally get up to speed tho. Most of us have suspected that McConnell and Ryan were in on the Fix since at least oct of last year.
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)Burr has been recalcitrant about the investigation. He would have to investigate himself.
Midnight Writer
(21,770 posts)calimary
(81,323 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)It seems like articles keep coming out w things that we already know. I suppose it's good, but mostly the choir is listened.
Alpeduez21
(1,751 posts)Unfortunately, there is no way to address that. It's not like anyone will ask for a do over. No way all the corrupted politicians lose their seat to the person who lost. No way they have enough integrity to resign there post. I hate republicans.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)DBoon
(22,372 posts)But wasn't, further embolden in criminals starting with Nixon
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)That is far from getting away with it, and it matters. Telling the truth about our past matters too.
DBoon
(22,372 posts)And enough of his henchmen escaped accountability to plague us to this day
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And many of his underlings went to jail. His entire administration went down and it hobbled the next president. Of course that matters.
Just because some people expect somehow wrongly it could be easy to send top officials to jail, it's not. I think we already know our society and its Justice are not perfectly egalitarian and fair across class lines, we already know that a charge like "treason" has an impossibly high bar. Honestly if some had their way, HRC would be carted off to jail w no charges against her, and Trump too. I can live with accepting and working harder to improve the system we have instead of throwing my hands up and thinking it's a waste of time.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)mgardener
(1,817 posts)Nixon should never have been allowed to resign.
He should have been held accountable.
The Republicans have been riding on that mistake for 40 years.
unblock
(52,257 posts)surely you aren't advocating that a crook like nixon should have been forced to stay in power??
volstork
(5,402 posts)the resurgence of cheney, wolfowitz, and rumsfeld in the bush I and II years. Continued disaster. We need to put these assholes UNDER the jail.
delisen
(6,044 posts)when they will be willing to make deals to right their wrongs.
Only then will they do the right thing.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)dalton99a
(81,526 posts)Stuart G
(38,436 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,461 posts)ancianita
(36,106 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)The GOP won't lock up Pence, Ryan and McConnell and 45 will pardon everyone who doesn't also have crimes in state courts.
ancianita
(36,106 posts)strategy might be among their legal arguments and indictments. Support for intent might come from evidence of intent to obstruct justice after other charges. Arpaio is just the start.
Let's see what Mueller's team does.
NCcoast
(480 posts)We need this to happen. This would be the big reset we desperately need.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)KIEV, Ukraine A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)at this story with the Steele Dossier. Mother Jones,Rolling Stone and other Mags have had stories about this Donation story. Seems to me,Ryan and McConnell were mentioned taking both money and captured Clinton and DNC e-mails. BTW,is not Adoption code for Clinton DNC e-mails?
People from Reagan Administration headed off to Jail=75.
People from Trump Administration headed off to Jail==All time record.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)The information therein is quite damning for the GOP stalwarts involved, and also further paints an incriminating picture of the Trump administration as related to possible Russian collusion.
Those who arent coming out of this looking good include the entire Republican National Committee, Senator Ted Cruz, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, Senator John McCain, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, among others.
Link: http://www.bluedotdaily.com/trump-docs-leaked-russian-money-trail-tied-to-mcconnell-cruz-rubio-mccain-and-rnc/
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)With old timers hitting big time,could not remember were I had seen this story. But,as usual,there are DU ers who bail my lamb brain out.
Understand,Chuckie Grass Job got a sizeable chunk for his and other Committer Chair Persons slush funds.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)mopinko
(70,138 posts)amazing how long it takes for some of this stuff to rise to the surface.
ffr
(22,671 posts)Spies and traitors!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the push back was massive and called fake news.
TeapotInATempest
(804 posts)for their Citizens United ruling. While these donations are illegal, NOTHING will change until we get money out of our elections.
This is no way to run a democracy.
delisen
(6,044 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:15 PM - Edit history (1)
on who finishes out Trump's term in office.
A lot depends on how deep into the Republican Party the Russian Rot disease goes and whether certain republicans prefer a deal that allows them to escape prison time.
CrispyQ
(36,479 posts)malaise
(269,066 posts)We know that - lock them all up
czarjak
(11,278 posts)"Republican policies are sound"
jalan48
(13,871 posts)Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)jalan48
(13,871 posts)Leith
(7,809 posts)They will pass laws making it legal - and retroactive to before their first payment.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)They stole the election from Americans using Russian money and technology. All republican treason weasels should be locked up now for the protection and defense of the United States of America.
samnsara
(17,623 posts)...from Australia and other foreign countries by sending out donation letters. They got a slap on the wrist back then so hell why not try it again?
spanone
(135,846 posts)Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)voter reg databases in over half the states....it goes on and on. So much out last summer that was a harbinger of things to come.
FakeNoose
(32,654 posts)This is all we've been talking about the last 9 months. How can you say this is "stunning?
It's not even a blip on the radar now.
Here's stunning: watching cops with tasers shoving Trump and 5 or 6 other old guys into a prison cell.
delisen
(6,044 posts)A Republican Party so compromised should not be in the Oval Office.
If they are guilty, they can't claim a "noble" motive-it was money and power. The will. all be ready to make a political deal to see themselves out of jail.
Initech
(100,082 posts)That's the big secret to this whole thing, and it doesn't take Mueller to figure it out!
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)McConnell, Walker, etc. No wonder they won't condemn Putin and his puppet.
ffr
(22,671 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 31, 2017, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Covering:
MSNBC and online news organizations
Edit: ==> The Hill - Just picked it up this afternoon.
Not covering:
ABC News, CBS News, CNN
...and probably Fox Noise too.
Huh. I wonder why they wouldn't want to carry this story. Are they complicit too?
elias7
(4,010 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,833 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)tanyev
(42,573 posts)kentuck
(111,104 posts)It was a large amount of money, as I recall..... something like $250 million dollars?
ffr
(22,671 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)They specifically name Rohrabacher and Trump, reiterate that it's true, and then Ryan makes them promise to keep it secret.
(Also, the Manfort "notes" were on MSNBC, too, so it's gone mainstream)
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Amounting to anything is always the problem.
The offenses were far worse than anything we can imagine, let alone have heard of.
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)possibly extend as far as the RNC. And certainly the behavior of GOP leadership has provided no clues.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)In business non-stop since Nixon was selling used cars.
Raster
(20,998 posts)C Moon
(12,213 posts)Sometimes I think the Trump clan wasn't smart enough to try to pull this off.
AllyCat
(16,193 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...Comrade Ryan and Comrade McConnell certainly won't argue... or investigate. BTW, where is Comrade McConnell getting the bucks for his superPAC?
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, I am not the least bit stunned at this revelation. I learned decades ago not to put anything past these slime bags. Nothing they do surprises me anymore.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Josh Marshall's take is likely most true I think
"Donations" refer to dirt brought to meeting by Russians about illegal donations to DNC. Russians got this dirt via hacking.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)blue-wave
(4,356 posts)Been waiting for this to rise to the top. Those who were suggesting a President Hatch months ago might be close to the mark after all.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)with tRump in the Russian collusion. Whether by design or by chance, they went along with tRump because they never thought tRump would win.
The loss was supposed to take any spotlight or investigation off tRump and his R cohorts. They would focus all their investigative bodies on Hillary. With all the screaming at Hillary and the Ds, they thought they would effectively bury any tRump investigation. At the least, they would use their prosecutions of Hillary as a preemptive gambit to portray any pursuit of tRump as a case of Ds trying to deflect attention by playing the projection card.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)And we will continue down the path of Authoritarian rule. They aren't patriots. They're in it for the corrupted powerful 1%. Who will stop them?
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Sure we want to hear this but it's not news yet so calm down.
pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)guy names james buchanan. lady found his paper & wrote a book. need the title. but its basically a plan to destroy american democracy by little bites so they can have their ayn rand 'utopia'. and i was thinking about this party reversal on russia & getting cozy w/ putin if this isn't part of the plan to massage american into anti democratic moves.
cstanleytech
(26,299 posts)and attacked the media reporting on it I would honestly not be surprised in the least if they were in bed with the Russians not of course that it will matter to the Repugnants water carrying base as they will simply utter the same old cries of "but Obama", "but Hillarys emails" or the old "Benghazi!!!!".