It just occured to me that Trump may not resign if things get bad

[applegrove]

because he needs to keep the power of the pardon for himself. Investigations into Russia could go on for years.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. A lot of constitutional scholars think a president can't pardon himself.

And if Schneiderman in New York brings state charges against him, he can't pardon himself for those anyhow.

[briv1016]

8. But as long as he remains president he has executive privilege.

And if he retires directly to Mar a Lago, New York would have a real hard time getting him extradited.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Executive privilege isn't the issue.

Executive privilege is just the privilege to withhold certain information that a president can claim on behalf of the executive branch. You might be thinking of immunity - but it isn't settled law that a president can't be charged or prosecuted for crimes he committed in office (Nixon was named by a grand jury as an "unindicted co-conspirator" because the Watergate prosecutors concluded he couldn't be charged while in office - but that's never been conclusively determined). Eventually he could be charged because his term won't last forever, and extradition petitions for serious felonies are routinely granted if he were to move to FL (and he could never go back to NY) so I don't see that as a problem.

[ImpeachTheGOP]

2. I don't want him to resign.

I want him in there fighting with congress, acting like a moron and getting absolutely nothing done.

I really don't get why anyone would rather have a dangerous lunatic like Mike Pence in the office. He knows the game, he knows the system and his policies and beliefs are off the charts terrible for the country. He could streamline the cruel, inhumane GOP agenda. Fuck that.

We can survive the Тяцмр circus until it's time to vote him out, we cannot survive an implemented far right agenda. It will be the end of everything.

We need to win the 2018 midterms. Then we can deal with the Comrade. Until then, I want him just where he is, doing exactly what he's doing.

[exboyfil]

6. Yes.

Since he has basically abdicated foreign and military policy having him mucking up the works on the GOP domestic agenda is best case. Even his own Cabinet is ignoring his communications. A very dangerous situation for sure, and I wonder how long Trump will let it continue. He looks like an idiot.

[rock]

9. Righto!

I've argued that point several times on DU. Welcome aboard, Stay a while!

[GulfCoast66]

10. I can't believe this this,

But I find myself agreeing with you. Pence is a true believing religious nut. We know most of these holier than thou congressman or just hypocrites. Hell, seems like every year to one of them gets caught playing footsie with a stranger in the men's room. Or Molesting young boys and showers.

But Pense, he believes that shit and is looking forward to Armageddon. And until then wants to enforce his lifestyle on all Americans.

[NightWatcher]

3. I think he's going to fire Mueller, resign, and hope the Congress doesn't bring him back

to continue prosecuting members of the administration.

[Corvo Bianco]

4. He better not kick the bucket during criminal proceedings.

I will be *majorly* pissed off.

[LakeArenal]

5. If we can actually get Dump convicted

I think there will be intense collateral damage. If Dump falls bigly, I think Pence, Ryan and more (please please please McConnell, too) will go with him.

I think we may be heading for a Constitutional magnatude 10.

My spouse thinks he walks.

[mcar]

7. I hope he doesn't

I want the entire party to be tainted, root and branch, to borrow a phrase.