How many think Vladimir Putin is behind the North Korean provocations?

[Chasstev365]

His goal is to sow chaos and uncertainty!

[Wounded Bear]

1. I think you mean "sow" but I get your point...

IMNSHO, Trump is owned by Putin, lock stock and barrel. Kim Jong Un probably is, too.

[Dave Starsky]

2. Absolutely.

That country couldn't launch a pop bottle rocket nine months ago. And now they have a hydrogen bomb? They're getting help from someone.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. To what end though. Putin is a thief, plain and simple, and a murderer.

But he wants to use the 300 billion he stole from people who actually earned it.

He cant if we are all dead, so I am confused where he fits into this and why China isnt being OVERTLY involved.

[defacto7]

10. China has too much to loose if NK falls.

Putin politically/philosophically want western powers weakened and smaller totalitarian regimes to be the proverbial mote in the eye. I can clearly see why both China and Russia would want an NK with enouph clout to unstabalize the west. Trump is the other card in the hole that makes it work for them.
I think too many times we see a nuclear conflict as world destruction when the reality is that it would be a localized conflict. Russia, China and the US arent going to lob 50 megaton bombs at each other; that's cold war stuff. These would be smaller localized weapons backed by millions of soldiers. Millions could die in SE Asia, the effects would destroy economies and fallout would effect the northern hemisphere but it wouldn't be the EOTW.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. KJU doesn't need any help in being provocative.

[guillaumeb]

5. Would it not be more likely that the Chinese are behind this?

That way, the Chinese could earn good will by counseling Kim to tone down the rhetoric and behavior.

[Not Ruth]

6. Kim is antifa and he came to disrupt

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9548824

[ornotna]

7. Yeah, sure.

Is that from The Onion?

[brooklynite]

8. Nope, NK has show an ability to sow chaos on it's own.

Simple question, in your theory, what would Kim Jong Un NOT be doing without Russian encouragement?

[underpants]

9. Well we know that their missile upgrades have come from a plant in the Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html

[bluestarone]

11. absolutley

Russia is behind this crap! That's my story and i'm sticking to it. Anything to upset American values

[WinkyDink]

12. No.