Donald was an IQ test which America failed.

[Madam45for2923]

Shame.

[Initech]

1. Actually I'd say the whole damn government.

You don't vote to give hardcore racists like Steve King and Joe Arpaio power. You don't vote for a Senate Majority Leader who wants to destroy the government from within for the benefit of those with more money than god. You don't vote for governors that treat their state like a playground like Chris Christie. You don't put the EPA in the hands of a guy who doesn't believe in science and thinks climate change is a myth. The republicans are the wrong answer to everything.

[Madam45for2923]

2. And all the courts of the land all the way up to the Supreme Court.

[SunSeeker]

3. Yep. nt

[world wide wally]

4. Do we need more natural disasters ahead of the next election to remind people

just how incompetent Perublicans are?

[GetRidOfThem]

18. You know, for those that don't want to believe in stronger hurricanes...

... Like Rush Linmbough (even though he now evacuated)... Let them stay! Natural thinning of the herd...

[Va Lefty]

5. K & R 1000x!

[BigmanPigman]

6. No surprise here. If 45 didn't win I would have been surprised.

I do not have a very high opinion of the average American. Shit, half of them didn't even vote. There is no excuse for that!

[sandensea]

7. But not quite.

Hillary won by 3 million votes, and was obviously cheated in (at least) three battleground states by vote tally-hacking Russians - and possibly Israelis, Rove contractors, and others.

[whathehell]

9. +10

Yes.

[ehrnst]

16. +1000. (nt)

[chaking53]

8. my favorite saying: People are stupid

[certainot]

10. we're still failing the real test - trump is a symptom of ignoring talk radio

here's the basic math that americans with brains ignore - this is why we have trump, and bush and palin before him:

at a cheap $1000/hr x 15hrs/day x 5 = $75,000/wk x 1200 stations rw talk radio is worth $18MIL/day or 390MIL$ /month or 4.68 BIL$/ year FREE for coordinated global warming denial, pro republican free market deregulation and wall st think tank propaganda, swiftboating, and the hate and fear used to get people to vote republican.

we still fail, bigly, don't even poll for it

[FairWinds]

11. You are right, of course, and there is also . .

FOX "news", which as this study shows translates into
real and measurable votes for the GOP.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/09/without-fox-news-republicans-would-be-in-a-world-of-hurt/

But folks on DU seem much more interested in bashing progressives . .

[certainot]

13. i see fox as the dumb little brother of rw radio

it's like the visual icing/reinforcement on the lie turd pie of talk radio - it needs talk radio being ignored

-unlike fox and other media, in most parts of the US there are no free easy alts for politics while driving and working - talk radio is it, and it's a 95% rw monopoly - with all other major media there are easy alternatives a click away
-there's a lot that is said on talk radio that wouldn't escape scrutiny and criticism on fox and some of it would cause major problems for fox - like when i heard a local guy last year attacking the sanctuary city concept for santa fe NM and suggesting the killer vigilante idea presented in the 'Purge' movies maybe wasn't such a bad idea.
-fox cannot do the kind of repetition needed to sell a lot of the alternate reality we have now
-it's easier to lie on the radio
-with radio it's possible to coordinate locally
-talk radio reaches 50 mil a week
etc

[Madam45for2923]

12. But this time the test was simpler: a referendum on decency! a referendum on democracy!

[certainot]

14. unfortunately there's nothing decent about the caricature of hillary clinton painted by rw radio

over 25 years while dems ignored it happening.....

and trump was going to drain the swamp of the 'elites' and liberal media....

[ehrnst]

17. Not just RW....

As you pointed out.

A new generation on the left was eager to lap it up.

Backlash. Susan Faludi nailed it.

[certainot]

30. maybe they're part of the huge range on secondary recipients, getting it

all the hillary hate from their parents around the dinner table when they were kids

[Madam45for2923]

31. Maybe on the right side, but not on the left side. On the left it is new and fabricated.

certainot (4,093 posts)
30. maybe they're part of the huge range on secondary recipients, getting it

all the hillary hate from their parents around the dinner table when they were kids

[certainot]

35. i disagree. i recognized most of the soc media trolling aimed at hillary as

having talk radio roots. some of it going back 20 years. i saw it repeated by 'progressives'.

most of what breitbart did piggybacked, reflected, and reinforced unchallenged talk radio repetition.

there's a reason trump studied talk radio in 2014, as described by sam nunberg to gabriel sherman in new york magazine 4/3/16, and i suspect the russians suggested it to him.

[Madam45for2923]

36. Ok I see what you mean. BTW I lived through that time & know what you are talking about!

[certainot]

37. i just had a long time good friend who's never listened to talk radio

tell me talk radio is irrelevant. unfortunately, while it's increasingly getting challenged by internet and social media those memes and talking points and alternate reality will hang over the country for years.

[rock]

15. In particular

The Electoral College failed. They have two problems.

1) In this case they achieved the opposite of what they were intended to do, i.e. they allowed a demagogue to lie constantly and make promises to the (in particular) not so astute voters;

2) It's structure is mathematical and logically unsound in that states are perceived as having voting rights: as silly as allowing any of these to have voting rights: roads, bridges, trees, guns, automobiles, the dead, dance bands, or cow patties. The net result has been to magnify the power of these same not-so-astute voters.

[Mr.Bill]

19. Actually a majority passed it.

[Sunlei]

20. donald was just a corner of the Republican parties gigantic cheat-sheet.

get the votes,
no matter how.
lie, hack, gerrymander,
steal.

[ancianita]

21. 30% of America. Not the 70% of those who didn't vote for him or didn't vote. There's that.

[Madam45for2923]

25. I see. But with Donald as the prize voting or not voting was part of the test.

[Nitram]

22. Little to do with IQ. Everything to do with principles and values.

[Madam45for2923]

34. Yes! ...and decency

[Hamlette]

23. Read "Donald Trump is the First White President" by Ta-Nehisi Coates

Not sure you'd disagree but it has made me rethink what happened in 2016. It's all about race.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

edited to add link

[Madam45for2923]

26. Thank you! Excellent read or listen. I like that they have it also on audio.

Hamlette
23. Read "Donald Trump is the First White President" by Ta-Nehisi Coates

Not sure you'd disagree but it has made me rethink what happened in 2016. It's all about race.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

[Johonny]

24. It honestly was the easiest election in my lifetime

The guy was terrible at the convention, at the debates, on the campaign trail, has warning signs blinking all over,

and yet too many people just ignored it, completely ignored it. It's a sad time in America.

[lunasun]

28. True -If it was a test, it was one every voter should have aced

I don't think it was all about I Q
An E Q *gage of the country perhaps

*EQ (Emotional Quotient) is a term used in psychometric to identify Emotional Intelligence (EI)
Emotional Intelligence or EI is referred to as the ability to recognize , evaluate and regulate your own emotions, emotions of those around you and groups of people. And just like IQ , EQ is measured by EQ Test.
A person who owns high Emotional Intelligence has the ability to self-assess, knows the strengths and weaknesses of themselves and others , has empathy and understanding of others’ feelings. They know how to keep calm and optimistic in life even in the most difficult challenges .

[Madam45for2923]

33. I like your explanation here!

America let itself knowingly be conned by someone dripping in sleaziness, racism and hate. Incredible!


lunasun
28. True -If it was a test, it was one every voter should have aced

I don't think it was all about I Q
An E Q *gage of the country perhaps

*EQ (Emotional Quotient) is a term used in psychometric to identify Emotional Intelligence (EI)
Emotional Intelligence or EI is referred to as the ability to recognize , evaluate and regulate your own emotions, emotions of those around you and groups of people. And just like IQ , EQ is measured by EQ Test.
A person who owns high Emotional Intelligence has the ability to self-assess, knows the strengths and weaknesses of themselves and others , has empathy and understanding of others’ feelings. They know how to keep calm and optimistic in life even in the most difficult challenges .

[Mike Nelson]

27. America voted for...

...Hillary Clinton. The electoral college voted for Trump. Democrats may need to get over 60% to win, especially with the census coming up... but I do get your point and the system did fail.

[lindysalsagal]

29. 2000, 2004.

We've been in the corner wearing a duncecap for almost 2 decades, now.

[Madam45for2923]

32. Yes, but in 2016 it was glaring AF! Interesting that the last 2 Repubs Prez had to cheat to get the

Plus Donald was uniquely and flagrantly racist and an abuser/bully/fascist. COME ON!

lindysalsagal
29. 2000, 2004.

We've been in the corner wearing a duncecap for almost 2 decades, now.

[TeamPooka]

38. The biggest Darwin Award ever.