What sexist double-standards in the media look like - Sanders vs. Hillary Book tours

[iluvtennis]

Link to tweet

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Democratic politicians dreading the final torture - seriously? I never liked Bernie, still don't.

[Mike Nelson]

1. I've seen nothing but...

...negative coverage of Hillary's book tour - and not just on FOX. I'm looking forward to seeing her and expect he book will be a big success. Plus, she won more votes than anyone in the 2016 race and ended up one of the most popular vote draws in history!

[Skittles]

2. Bernie was held to normal standards during the campaign

Hillary was held to impossible standards, while Donald was held to no standards at all

[rpannier]

3. Donald was held to no standards at all

No matter what hole he dug, what muck he leaped into willingly it was always okay with the media
They covered it like it was some game show

[treestar]

20. That's a pretty good sum up.

[chimpymustgo]

23. En pointe. We have to speak up and speak out. End sexism now.

And racism....et al.

[Skittles]

48. sexism is far more pervasive than racism

there has never been a female president and we are OVER HALF THE POPULATION

[George II]

55. It's easier to hide.

[Skittles]

57. who says it is hidden?

[George II]

58. What I mean is people can be more subtle with their sexism than their racism.

[Skittles]

59. OK yes

that is true

[Warpy]

27. That statement says it iall, really

and it's a miracle Clinton won the popular vote. The media were horrible.

[GoCubsGo]

34. The same holds true now, after the campaign, as well.

[Skittles]

38. Hillary has been held to account more than all the men put together

while it rightfully resulted in no criminal charges, they successfully trashed her reputation. I am shocked by the amount of bullshit I hear about her right here on DU....that shows just how successful it has been, and continues to be.

[GoCubsGo]

41. Yep. I'm seeing it in this thread.

It's disgusting.

[MrsCoffee]

4. This fucking pisses me off more than I can say.

And the fact that people will come along and deny it or defend it pisses me off even more.

[smirkymonkey]

47. +1000

[betsuni]

5. K&R

[NurseJackie]

7. That's NOT the title of her book.

Bluepinky
6. Maybe it's the title of her book, "What Went Wrong"?

[Bluepinky]

10. I'm sorry, it's "What Happened". It's one book I'm not rushing out to get.

[Phentex]

11. You should read It Takes a Village

not the new children's version but the old one. NOT a snoozefest in any way.

[Bluepinky]

17. Thank you for a thoughtful and respectful reply.

I have heard that that was a wonderful book, I'm glad you brought it up. That is a book that interests me more than her new one.
I wish every day that Hillary was our President, I just don't think it helps to bash her primary opponents.

[NurseJackie]

19. Nobody here is "bashing her primary opponents".

I just don't think it helps to bash her primary opponents.

Nobody here is "bashing her primary opponents".

What many of us ARE doing is responding when our Democratic Party and Democratic Party leaders and Democratic candidates are smeared and denigrated. Many of us reject the notion that we must remain silent and endure the abuse and insults and lies.

All I'm saying is that it's wrong to falsely accuse people of "bashing her primary opponents" just so that malcontents will have a clear path to smear Democrats with impunity, and without the fear of any pushback or being challenged.

[George II]

56. Now that more excerpts and details of the book have been released, the assessment is....

....that she was a lot more positive about Sanders than negative. But what gets the early "leaks" are parts that can be construed as negative.

[NurseJackie]

12. Your insinuation that she needs (or is/was seeing) a psychiatrist is a smear too.

It sounds like she wrote a book based on her therapy sessions with a psychiatrist.

This is highly offensive. It's a smear.

Stop it.

[Bluepinky]

15. There is no shame in seeing or needing a psychiatrist.

I don't know if Hillary met with a psychiatrist and I don't care. But your insinuation that seeing or needing a psychiatrist is a bad thing is shameful.
This is highly offensive. Stop it.

(See, I can turn this around just as easily on you).

[NurseJackie]

16. Your meaning and intent were very clear. Splitting of hairs and word games won't change it.

But your insinuation that seeing or needing a psychiatrist is a bad thing is shameful.

Actually, it was YOUR way of being dismissive... suggesting that the book had little value or importance BECAUSE it was the result of some psychiatrist's recommendations or help she was receiving. You implied she's suffering from a mental illness or a psychological breakdown.

Yeah... your meaning was very clear. Stop it.

(See, I can turn this around just as easily on you).

LOL! You can certainly try. But you'll fail, as we've just seen.

[Bluepinky]

18. OK, whatever you say.

[NurseJackie]

22. And not just me, apparently.

[Hekate]

26. Yes, Bluepinky, you are being highly offensive

Are you sure you wandered into the right place?

Just asking for a friend.

[George II]

54. No rush required, it's not on sale until Tuesday.

[Me.]

50. The Wonderful Thing About That Title

Is that it can be read both as a question and an explanation

[NurseJackie]

51. With Hillary's integrity and intelligence, it's an explanation. But...

... more than just an explanation, it's going to be a thoughtful analysis and reflection.

[leftstreet]

8. Why are you blaming Sanders?

I never liked Bernie, still don't.

The media representation is at fault here

[NurseJackie]

9. Not just the media, sadly.

It's a mistake to blame ONLY the media, and it lets many off-the-hook in so doing.

[leftstreet]

13. Sanders didn't write the above articles or title them

That's what I meant

[NurseJackie]

45. How was the OP "blaming Sanders" at all?

What part of the OP is actually blaming him of anything?

[guillaumeb]

29. A suitable villain is obviously needed.

Especially a villain with the dreaded (I) after his/her name.

[lunamagica]

14. They want her book to tank. Too bad for them it's already a best-seller even before it is released

[iluvtennis]

39. It won't tank. I already pre-ordered the book on Amazon - can't wait to get it!

[NastyRiffraff]

21. I can't wait for the book!

There are a lot of people who richly deserve a big FUCK YOU from Hillary. I hope she gives it to them. They'll trash her whatever she says or does, so I hope she just goes for it!

[oberliner]

24. There are so many anti-Hillary headlines connected to this book tour (and not just from RW sources)

Democrats are not looking forward to Hillary Clinton's upcoming book tour

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/08/democrats-are-not-looking-forward-to-hillary-clintons-upcoming-book-tour/23201998/

Democrats dread Hillary's book tour

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/hillary-clinton-book-tour-democrats-242419

In angry new book, Clinton defends campaign strategy

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/angry-book-clinton-defends-campaign-strategy-49711356

It's ridiculous.

[clu]

31. MSM is fed by ratings and clickbait factor

so they will appeal to the lowest common denominator do we really expect anything different? talk about wasted energy focusing on the past. don't get me wrong - the book is inbounds but who cares what the news article on AOL.COM says. go comment on it there - whereas I can see this article only serving to spread division here.


edit: my first reply was speaking too soon - i only saw the aol.com link. the aol site really only links to a political article at http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/hillary-clinton-book-tour-democrats-242419 where claims are made like "Political reporters gripe privately (and on Twitter) about yet another return to the campaign that will never end. Campaign operatives don't want the distraction, just as they head into another election season. And members of Congress from both parties want the focus on an agenda that’s getting more complicated by the week. "

ok i will just take a seat

[m-lekktor]

37. It's due to the content of each book. Hillary's book trashes a host of people she blames for her

election loss, picking at scabs and setting one group against the other when many just want to move forward and unify for the future and Bernie's book is a blueprint to do exactly that. It seriously shouldn't be fucking rocket science as to why the headlines are such as they are and one book tour gets treated differently than the other.

[oberliner]

40. You've read it?

I didn't think it was available yet.

[QC]

43. Why do you hate women?

[lapucelle]

60. Did you read an advance copy of "What Happened"

or are you merely prescient about a book that isn't available yet?

[jalan48]

63. +1 I feel like we're stuck in neutral.

[Hekate]

25. It seldom gets more stark than that. If SHE had bellowed and growled like either of the men...

...the media would have accused her of having rabies.

"Group therapy" for devotees of Bernie? Versus the "final torture" for the 66,000,000 of us who voted for Hillary instead of the Mad King? Pardon me while I vomit.

[LisaM]

28. Of note is that he wrote his book DURING THE CAMPAIGN.

You know, while he was supposedly out there campaigning "robustly" for her. Can you imagine if Hillary had spent the fall of 2008 writing a book and released it right after the election?

[KitSileya]

65. Yes, and while they claim his book is all about looking forward, check out this gem

Link to tweet

(As someone else pointed out, he automatically thinks it's a conspiracy because he refuses to acknowledge the work she put in to create those relationships within the party to get those endorsements.)

[LisaM]

66. This made me laugh out loud.

I mean, honestly. She is supposed to wait and see if any non-Democrats entered the race???

[clu]

30. without more detail and also no context in the links in the OP

plus being 140 character max twitter news, this seems like a non-story suitable for people magazine. no offense I don't know you (or your comments and persuasion here) but this seems about as reputable as clickbait fakenews. I don't even care to ask for any position piece that outlines sexism with respect to HRC. hell why am I even replying?

[m-lekktor]

33. I hear you. nt

[m-lekktor]

32. This proves sexism? Does anti-bernie stuff like your comment prove anti-semitism?

this shit gets ridiculous.

[The River]

35. Who Doesn't Like

Sour Grapes?
I hear they make a very fine whine.

One is looking forward.
One is not.

[GoCubsGo]

42. What part of "memoir" don't you understand?

The whole point of them is looking back. I guess people are no longer allowed to write them without the risk of being called "whiners"?

[NurseJackie]

44. Some people are afraid of the truth. They want to silence her. They want...

... to be dismissive in the hopes that she won't be taken seriously.

What are they afraid of?

[Azathoth]

36. Two headlines from different writers at different publications about two different topics

The first is about Bernie's disillusioned base, the second is about Democratic politicians.

Yawn.

[Nevernose]

46. There's no double standard present, though

Except for the subject of "book tour" the situations are completely different.

Bernie wasn't promoting a memoir, nor explaining his loss to Clinton. It was a different type of book -- one looking forward -- plus he's still a sitting senator.

Clinton IS promoting a memoir and discussing and exploiting an incredibly painful situation (for all of us). She is absolutely the last human being qualified to lead us in national "therapy" about Trump's win, because she's the one that lost to him.

[linuxman]

49. Wow. It's almost like these aren't all written by one person.

Crazy.

The media isn't a monolith.

[still_one]

52. The OP is right on target.

[uponit7771]

62. +1

[apcalc]

53. We will carry her, lift her up.

we will not allow them to keep her down. Eff the dicks.

[MadDAsHell]

61. Not sure 2 separate sources 10 months apart is a "double standard." nt

[True_Blue]

64. The right and the media have been attacking her for over 2 decades now

And I've never seen anyone stronger or more resilient than she is.

If she wants to write a book, and do a book tour (like other authors do), that's her prerogative. After all, she was the 1st woman Presidential candidate in the most outrageous election I've ever seen. IMO, it's going to be a great read and I can't wait!